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Northlander
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:05 pm
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Don't worry. She won't be using that whistle for that much longer. Well... unless the anime changes that.
But yeah, Hikari is hardly a worthy replacement for Akari. I can get behind the happy-go-lucky personality, but she really pushes the limit of how much space case-dness I'm willing to accept in my characters.
As good as Amanchu will probably be, it's not going to be quite on the level of Aria, because that was one of those rare once-in-a-lifetime special manga and shows, and surpassing that would be a small miracle in its own right. Still, it's good that Junichi Sato has Amano's dialogue to work by, because he's not very good at coming up with his own stuff. At least, that's the impression I got from Tamayura. Tamayura is a lovely show, but a lot of the lines there feel rather... superficial.
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CrimsonDX
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:36 pm
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I don't see why Pikari needs to be a worthy replacement to Akari. Akari is Akari, Pikari is Pikari. I personally find Pikari to be diabeetus inducing levels of cute. I can't wait to see more of Pikari and Teko interacting.
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Hawkmonger
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:51 am
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I really must give this a watch. It's about scuba diving and it looks super cute.
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Northlander
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:22 pm
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CrimsonDX wrote: | I don't see why Pikari needs to be a worthy replacement to Akari. Akari is Akari, Pikari is Pikari. I personally find Pikari to be diabeetus inducing levels of cute. I can't wait to see more of Pikari and Teko interacting. |
Fair enough. "Replacement" was really a poor choice of words. I just felt that Pikari was more like a personality trait given form, where Akari -- and... well, everyone else in Aria -- was more than just that.
It's a bit of a nitpick, though, so don't put too much stock in this minor complaint.
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CrimsonDX
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:58 am
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Northlander wrote: |
CrimsonDX wrote: | I don't see why Pikari needs to be a worthy replacement to Akari. Akari is Akari, Pikari is Pikari. I personally find Pikari to be diabeetus inducing levels of cute. I can't wait to see more of Pikari and Teko interacting. |
Fair enough. "Replacement" was really a poor choice of words. I just felt that Pikari was more like a personality trait given form, where Akari -- and... well, everyone else in Aria -- was more than just that.
It's a bit of a nitpick, though, so don't put too much stock in this minor complaint. |
Fair enough, but also remember that we are only two episodes in. Even Akari and company weren't fully fleshed out from the get go.
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Kendra Kirai
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:57 am
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I like to think that Hikari's muppetface is just an extension of her wide eyed....kind of empty stare. You know, like the one small children have when everything is SO EXCITING that blinking would be FOOLISH because you might MISS something.
The kind of empty stare that is taking everything in at once.
Or maybe just empty because she's an idiot. It can be hard to tell the difference between those two.
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JaggedAuthor
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:29 am
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I get the impression that the teacher/club advisor has some sort of connection to Hikari's (deceased?) parents. If not, I don't know why they'd have Futaba call attention to the fact that she addresses her by her nickname. It might also explain why she has no qualms about beating the crap out of her.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:46 am
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To me episode 3 was not as great as the first two, but this show has quickly become my favorite new show. Teko and Pikari are very strong leads and learning about their dream-like world is nice, but I hope we see the rest of the main cast and some scuba diving by episode 5.
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Valhern
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:49 am
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Episode 3 ramped things up for me. I was a bit hesitant throughout episode 1, it always felt like overselling such a simple premise, and it sort of shadowed the heart of the show, which I absolutely loved after episode two.
And I'm not actually interested in scuba diving, but if there is one thing I love about shows in real-life settings that I have no idea of (this includes sports anime) is that they explain to me what's interesting about it, what people do when scuba diving, what they take care of, what swimsuits they use. Inversely, I REALLY hate it when the anime takes a more or less known setting and they ride with it without ever explaining to you technical and in-world stuff. The mini-class of scuba diving immerses me into it, the same way the exploration of the tricks in Kaleido Star fascinated me, even if at points a lot of the tricks were a little far-fetched.
Other anime take the setting for granted or lightly and just focus on character interaction or making scenes look, Amanchu! has done all, with rough edges, but ultimately it's been well-done. If I had to put a clear example, it'd be Hajime no Ippo's first episodes, in which we learn how to throw a really strong punch, and after Ippo does it everybody comments on how freaking strong, and it also ties in with his daily life and it's also compelling in how nice Ippo is yet scarily strong. There is also a gorgeously animated tape of boxing matches that immerse both us and Ippo into a boxing world.
JaggedAuthor wrote: | If not, I don't know why they'd have Futaba call attention to the fact that she addresses her by her nickname. It might also explain why she has no qualms about beating the crap out of her. |
My impression of that was that Teko (it's easier to recall the nicknames actually) was figuring out how a nickname means a sense of closeness to other people, and that that was the meaning of Pikari giving her one, and when she feels that she really wants to get close with Pikari she finally calls her that. It was a bit spoonfed to us, she mentions it three times, and I think that the time in which she lowkey thinks about calling her that and gets flustered had enough meaning, after that we didn't need to hear it that many times.
Plus, it'd be impossible for them to know each other that much and Pikari not knowing that she is a scuba diver, in episode 2 when the teacher says a diving term and she is surprised by that.
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sunflower
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:24 pm
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I was convinced to try this again and this episode was way more tolerable in terms of Pikari. I liked the lower key feel of it and found the scuba talk interesting. Even though I spend a lot of time in the water no one ever laid out the facts about compression and pressure as clearly as that. And the end was beautiful. I'm back on board for now.
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BluExocet
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:30 pm
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Hah, so that's one chapter of the OW manual, now for the other six! But seriously, knowing the pressure and depth changes are very important in diving. Everything else is hands-on experience.
If you know how air pressure works at depth, then you already have an idea of what it'll do when ascending and descending, and yes, the number one super important rule in diving is to always keep breathing. Otherwise you'll suffer a whole slew of really, really bad stuff which is covered in the OW coursework.
Here's a quick rundown of the depth, the episode covered it pretty well. This is for salt water, the numbers change a little bit for freshwater diving. And it's a whole 'nother calculation set for altitude diving. One way to visualize it is to think of a balloon full of air, as it rises the air molecules expand because there's less pressure forcing them together so they get to move around a little more. Now bring that balloon down to depth and it'll compress - the air is being squeezed together and it gets tighter and tighter the deeper you go. This also makes the air more dense.
0m/ft = 1bar/ata [full]
10m/33ft = 2bar/ata [1/2 full]
20m/66ft = 3bar/ata [1/3 full]
30m/99ft = 4bar/ata [1/4 full]
40m/ 132ft = 5bar/ata [1/5 full]
This is also why we equalize our ears, so we don't cause ear barotrauma. It releases the pressure of the air pockets in our sinus cavities. Think like how when you get a head-cold, that kind of pressure and at depth if you don't equalize it's gonna hurt.
EX:
OW divers are trained and certified to go to a max depth of 60ft. Adv.OW and all recreational diving certifications are allowed to go an absolute max of 130ft. Beyond that is considered technical diving which is a completely different set of rules and knowledge base.
OW = Open Water
Not including the DSD or junior diver courses, OW is the entry level diving certification for everyone who wants to become a diver. It covers everything you need to know to dive at a basic recreational level.
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OwlBiceps
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:19 pm
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I loved the Free-style way that Kohinata talks about the ocean in ep 2. It gave me chills. Count me in
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sunflower
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:46 pm
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BluExocet wrote: |
If you know how air pressure works at depth, then you already have an idea of what it'll do when ascending and descending, and yes, the number one super important rule in diving is to always keep breathing. Otherwise you'll suffer a whole slew of really, really bad stuff which is covered in the OW coursework. |
I've never been diving, too claustrophobic or something because I freak. But I snorkel a lot and will dive down to 20-30ft on occasion if I see something interesting. I just wonder if I should be more careful doing it with those numbers. I mean, I was told to slowly exhale but no one ever said why, and now I know. But am I missing anything else I should know?
I wonder how those pearl divers who go to 100ft handle it...?
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HaruhiToy
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:04 pm
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sunflower wrote: | I've never been diving, too claustrophobic or something because I freak. But I snorkel a lot and will dive down to 20-30ft on occasion if I see something interesting. I just wonder if I should be more careful doing it with those numbers. I mean, I was told to slowly exhale but no one ever said why, and now I know. But am I missing anything else I should know? |
If you are not using compressed air you have nothing to worry about.
At the surface you fill your lungs, then you dive. The air (and your lungs) get compressed. But when you ascend again they aren't going to have more air than they started with before you dove. That is why free diving doesn't require that particular bit of training.
If you go down, inhale some compressed air, you then have enough to cause an embolism should you ascend while not exhaling anything. In training they said this can happen within a meter or two.
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sunflower
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:19 pm
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^ Ah that's a relief to know! I was gonna say, I've been doing it an awful long time with no problems.
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