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NEWS: Voice Actor Minoru Shiraishi Apologizes for Downloading Dōjinshi


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shiranehito



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:17 am Reply with quote
"Trying to use" doujinshi...?

Wa- wa- wa- wasuremono...
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:46 am Reply with quote
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The voice actor said he is deeply reflecting on the incident


Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Shar Aznabull wrote:
Peace-Hame was one of those H-manga that ended up being more interesting for the story rather than the smut.

Not that, uh, I would know or anything Rolling Eyes


You know there are legitimate mangakai that secretly make hentai. Rei Hiroe (Tex-Mex) for instance.
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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:37 pm Reply with quote
Is this a case of having to apologize for stealing from a thief? (ib4 piracy isn't theft etc etc)
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:39 pm Reply with quote
Twitter nails another poor soul again. You just can't post your whole life to the public and think it is not going to come back to haunt you.
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:43 pm Reply with quote
Lemonchest wrote:
Is this a case of having to apologize for stealing from a thief? (ib4 piracy isn't theft etc etc)


It isn't stated in the article if the work was based off copyrighted material or not.

Edit: NVM, I misread the article.


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Touma



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:01 pm Reply with quote
Lemonchest wrote:
Is this a case of having to apologize for stealing from a thief?

Whether the doujinshi is theft of intellectual property is an interesting legal question.
I suspect that parody doujinshi does not violate copyright laws, though it may infringe on trademarks, but I would really like to get an opinion on that from somebody who is well versed in Japanese copyright law.
I doubt that I will find such a person here in the forum, but I might be surprised.

@Hameyadea,
The article does say that the doujinshi is based on The IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls.
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Alabaster Spectrum



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:35 pm Reply with quote
The best part is he's signed under the same label that produces a good chunk of the music for iDOLM@STER and technically an associate of the Bandai Visual company. Either this is just one huge publicity stunt or he's really asking for the blacklist. If people remember what happened to Aya Hirano once she ran afoul of the Lantis label a few years back they'd know what I mean.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:52 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Make amends by buying 5 copies of each, meet the author too.


And if his facial paralysis is healed by then, laugh weirdly at the author.

Touma wrote:
Whether the doujinshi is theft of intellectual property is an interesting legal question.
I suspect that parody doujinshi does not violate copyright laws, though it may infringe on trademarks, but I would really like to get an opinion on that from somebody who is well versed in Japanese copyright law.
I doubt that I will find such a person here in the forum, but I might be surprised.


From what I've read elsewhere on this site, Japan has no parody protection, and doujinshi is illegal, just not enforced.
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Lostlorn Forest



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:20 pm Reply with quote
With all the news I've been hearing about this guy and all the bad luck he's had, I don't think the thumbnail image of him accurately reflects his actual facial expressions Anime hyper
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Touma



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:21 pm Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
From what I've read elsewhere on this site, Japan has no parody protection, and doujinshi is illegal, just not enforced.

That does not tell me if a parody doujinshi actually is a violation of copyright law in Japan. How much of the original work does the law protect?

The entire work as a whole is protected, which is what makes piracy illegal. But what about individual characters? Are they protected? If so how close does the doujinshi drawing need to be, and who judges if it really is the same character?
I am having trouble believing that the Japanese government would pay a panel of judges to study a doujinshi and determine if it does violate some copyright.
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:29 pm Reply with quote
Honestly I have more of a problem with people attempting to profit off of content created by someone else than I do someone "illegally" downloading the end result. Free fanart is great, but if you want to make money, come up with your own damn stuff.
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Rensie



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:36 pm Reply with quote
With the criminal and antidemocratic pact called TPP things can turn much worse, but hopefully authors will not care and comiket can take place without any issue.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:53 pm Reply with quote
You stole from some thieves, what are you apologizing for again?
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byeblackbird





PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:55 pm Reply with quote
I'm shocked... that we read the same porn, Shiraishi.
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kanjineogeo



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Rensie wrote:
With the criminal and antidemocratic pact called TPP things can turn much worse, but hopefully authors will not care and comiket can take place without any issue.


Any reason why it cannot be stopped?
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