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radicaledward



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:07 am Reply with quote
Because of the warning in the title I'm not going to bother with the spoiler tag for now unless someone asks for it, but I will try to keep things kind of vague. Also, the manga and the anime are different, and as such I'm referring to the manga for now. Ok, first question:

- In the manga it is revealed that Chi does not have 'true' emotions, but is acting upon her programming; however, it is also implied that she is unaware of how her programming works. As such here's the question, if Chi is acting upon 'emotions' that she does not understand (neither do us humans) are her emotions 'real' even though they are programmed?

- The impression that I got from the manga is that Chi is a true AI in the programming sense of the term (i.e. A program that has the ability to be make independent decisions based upon the situation and experiences, not influenced by hard coded decisions) and as such is Chi sentient?

- What is the whole story behind the National Data Repository?

- And finely, why would someone put Chi's reset button 'there'?
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Hellomojo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:57 pm Reply with quote
Well, Chii doesn't know of her programing, for what I think, is on purpose. You can read in the manga about Uzuki checking data, doing voice recognition speches, etc. etc. When Uzuki is doing that she seems terribly mechanical. Chii was created to act and look human even tough she wasn't, that's why she doesn't know her O.S., what software she takes, and all the blah blah technical stuff all other persocom know. Chii's not real beacause she doesn't know whats going on inside of her but, because she was made like that on purpose.

If you think of it Chii is horible as a computer so her only real function is to look real and to "love".

I'm imagining that the National Data repository is like the national data bank only portable. You know, the national data bank... Shocked

I'm sure Chii's mother and father chose to put the reset button "there" because she is sorta the little angel and doing the dirty would ruin her purity. She's very pure and you can see that. Also, to set up the obstacle that she's both not human-like and the fact you can't screw her takes someone thats extremely devoted to loving Chii. That's bout it Smile
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Iron Chef



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 1:27 am Reply with quote
This might be a dumb question, but is the manga quite a bit different from the anime? The anime is the only experience I have with the series.
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radicaledward



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:19 am Reply with quote
Iron Chef wrote:
This might be a dumb question, but is the manga quite a bit different from the anime? The anime is the only experience I have with the series.


From my understanding there are major differences between the two. Mostly in terms of the stories told, I'm as sure about the actualy content in terms of Chi and others in the story. However, I do know from so things that people have mentioned that the Chi in the anime is no the same Chi in the manga.
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Hellomojo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:17 pm Reply with quote
Iron Chef wrote:
This might be a dumb question, but is the manga quite a bit different from the anime? The anime is the only experience I have with the series.


no, they are different. In the anime entire episodes come uo from nowhere, example:the fanservice full "lets go to the beach" episode.

Also the anime started really early and had little reference material making it reeeeeaaaalllllllly slow. I think the anime finished before the manga and had a different spin on the story but I'm not certain about that.

Another thing I've noticed is that Clamp gave spurts of foreshadowing which seemed to early or oddly placed. I'm not sure if it was to lead the anime in a partcular direction or it was in the master plan.

Of both I really like the manga but the anime takes 0 effort to enjoy if you can bear the overly-saccarine sexual fiasco, well its not so bad, in the first half.
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Iron Chef



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:56 am Reply with quote
Mayhaps I'll have to purchase the manga and check it out. I liked the story in Chobits, but you're right about the random fanservice episode. Why? And too many recap episodes, too! Aieee...
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Tokaji Kyoden



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:21 pm Reply with quote
The real big difference is in the endings. My best friend, who got me into chobits, hated the ending to the anime, but he liked the ending to the manga.

I dont want to say any more, just in case you haven't read the manga.
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hellsing



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:50 am Reply with quote
- In the manga it is revealed that Chi does not have 'true' emotions, but is acting upon her programming; however, it is also implied that she is unaware of how her programming works. As such here's the question, if Chi is acting upon 'emotions' that she does not understand (neither do us humans) are her emotions 'real' even though they are programmed?

I believe its just her programming that makes her feel those emotions they have. Wink





- And finely, why would someone put Chi's reset button 'there'?[/quote]

some guy/ or if not then girl probably wanted it to be there because a female's womb is their source of power or the other possible reason is whoever made it put there is just a horny pervert.(lol) Laughing
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AuraShadow



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:11 pm Reply with quote
I have not seen the ending to the anime, but I have all 8 volumes of the manga. I have only read the summery of the anime and I HATED IT!!!!! ( I hate ho the manga ends compared to the anime.) Since I can't give any spoliers away, all I will say is that I'm glad they changed the ending for the anime. Twisted Evil Very Happy Cool [/u
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Hellomojo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:14 pm Reply with quote
Why, because the manga was too real or the anime was too "magical ending"?

Or both...

The anime WOULD have taken the manga if the manga was done before. I guess you lucked out.
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sun007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:14 pm Reply with quote
radicaledward wrote:

- And finely, why would someone put Chi's reset button 'there'?


I was thinking the exact question as I read the last volume. I'll admit that I think it's a little bit weird that Clamp would put the reset button "there". I think it's mainly because of you couldn't just say you love Chii just to "take her mind, soul, and heart". You had to decide whether to love Chii emotionally or physically, and that was what the manga was basically about.
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sun007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:16 pm Reply with quote
That's my thoughts on that subject. Surprised
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SSJ Ski



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:27 am Reply with quote
The whole manga is about finding your special someone. The reason chi's reset button is there is in an effort to find her speical someone. Because someone who really cared for her would care for her not in a physical sense only but in every way. Therefore, in the case of Hideki, he would rather have Chi there and truly care for her in every sense, rather than do the act and lose everything he has built up to that point.

If that makes sense :p
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Jubei



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:29 am Reply with quote
I havn't seen all of the anime but I've read all the manga and I can say I enjoyed the manga much more, although the ending is somewhat depressing. I mean it's great they end up together but they can never be truely "one".

Personally I don't consider Chii's emotions to be fake simply because they're based on a program, afterall our emotions are based upon programming in a way, exept ours is biological whilst her's would be mechanical. Actually that's one of my favorite things about the manga is that is raises a lot of questions about exactly what makes emotions real and what it means to truely be alive.
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Tsukishiro



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:39 am Reply with quote
the reason that the switch is "down there" is because her mother which will remain nameless (spoiler) wanted her to find someone who cared enough about her not to restart her or "become one" but still be able to love her and be with her. But I don't about the whole A.I thing. Chi is not an A.I she is only the closest thing to it as of that time frame. Everything she does her feelings her actions everything is programmed though it feels like emotion to her which is good enough. If she beleives that she can feel a certain way does that not define emotion. just because it is not human does not matter, it is the fact that she thinks she feels that way regardless of what is influecing her. So chi may not have raw human emotion but she does feel because she believes that she does.
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