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Actar
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:19 am
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Here is a question that I believe is on many people's minds. If an anime or a show is not legally available in your country, are fansubs technically illegal? Also, how do importing the BDs and DVDs from other countries factor into this equation?
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consignia
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:27 am
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Quote: | If an anime or a show is not legally available in your country, are fansubs technically illegal? |
It's all down to local law, I'd say. Many countries are signed up to the Berne convention, which should respect country of origin on artistic works for copyright. But if they are not, the country may be a regime where anything from foreigners is illegal anyway.
Obviously, I'm not not an expert, but this is my simplified view on the matter.
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johnmp
Joined: 25 Mar 2015
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:30 am
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I was born in Vietnam, and I was luckly moved to the USA, I always said that I wished we never moved but after this question, I then realize how lucky I was to move here. If I stayed in Vietnam I probably wouldn't even know what anime is. But i hope one day all country can have freedom and rights like the USA because makes me feel sad when other. People who were born in country similar like mine don't have the rights like the USA.
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phoenixalia
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:37 am
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I live a place where the manga means mango. No, seriously, manga in the language here means mango (the fruit).
I only have one friend in my town who likes anime and manga like I do. Well, to a certain extent at least. No Funi, almost no Crunchy shows, no Hulu etc. All I have is Daisuki which I used for Kuroko no Basuke season 3 (though the player was troublesome most of the time but I digress).
Most people here have watched Pokemon, Doraemon and the like but don't know that they are anime. We have Animax but it's not popular at all. Afaik, only very few cable providers have Animax now. In other words, there are literally no anime and manga fans here except maybe one or two percent.
So I have to do things illegally. Buying stuff from the US is also out the question because my country's currency is suuuuper low when compared to the US dollar.
BUT, there is one thing I do, and that is, buy stuff directly from Japan! I'm learning Japanese and I like buying some manga, especially ones with Drama CD's from Japan. I love getting furoku from magazines as well.
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Lemonchest
Joined: 18 Mar 2015
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:39 am
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I imagine if they let you import manga into Iran, each panel would end up looking like:
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GiriOni
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:41 am
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Quick correction: "Muslim morals" should be corrected to "Islamic morals" as Muslims are the people who follow the religion and Islam is the religion.
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ICO44
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:42 am
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I used to live there as well when I was a kid and the only anime I was able to watch was Capitan Tsubasa, I think they called it "Footbalista" there.
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Gasero
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:43 am
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It has always been my assumption that the more a company keeps their properties out of other regions (regionally or intentionally) the more money they lose. Once people get in the habit of downloading something illegally it will be difficult to break that culture without offering an intense amount of incentives.
In the age of the internet it makes little sense for companies to not extend their licenses internationally whenever they can.
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Utsuro no Hako
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:14 am
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Maybe Voice of America should should start broadcasting Prison School to Iran.
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Orange Hollow
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:30 am
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Now I feel much better about my country. Sure, there's a lot of horrible shit going on, but at least no one censors whole culture here. Seriously, while reading this article I felt like I live in a world of enlightenment and progress.
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johnnysasaki
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:36 am
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Utsuro no Hako wrote: | Maybe Voice of America should should start broadcasting Prison School to Iran. |
And Shimoneta. Man,I would love to see Muslims' reactions after watching these things...
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Xaxtly
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:02 pm
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As a person of Iranian decent who loves anime; it really pains me to see that you cant enjoy what I love with the same ease that I do. I know that things are getting slightly better with sanctions being eased and such; maybe a slight possibility if Japan pushes for an economic tie (given if the U.S approves of such) it might get bundled in.
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SilverTalon01
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:03 pm
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johnnysasaki wrote: | And Shimoneta. Man,I would love to see Muslims' reactions after watching these things... |
I find it amusing that you seem to be implying that they would have some completely illogical / totally outrageous reactions which which would be a treat to be privy to, but that already happens to the same shows here.
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kgw
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:03 pm
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Actar wrote: | Here is a question that I believe is on many people's minds. If an anime or a show is not legally available in your country, are fansubs technically illegal? Also, how do importing the BDs and DVDs from other countries factor into this equation? |
Yup, it's still illegal because it's not where do you take "in" but you where do you take "from": original author is not making a yen from you, and I am quite sure he and his company would be glad taking more money from overseas.
As for Iran, well, the sanctions maybe lifting soon. Let's hope for the better.
Curiously, I keep on watching Arslan and thinking it could be a major hit there, with the Not-Persian kicking "Not-Bizantines/Indians" *sses... (except the minor thing about the priestess not-clothing)
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Agent355
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:05 pm
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Orange Hollow wrote: | Now I feel much better about my country. Sure, there's a lot of horrible shit going on, but at least no one censors whole culture here. Seriously, while reading this article I felt like I live in a world of enlightenment and progress. |
What is the anime and manga situation in Russia right now, and would it be possible for Iranians to legally import Japanese manga and/or anime from Russia? I think Russia is still trading with Iran despite the sanctions, right?
I knew a Jewish Iranian family in America that subscribed to a satellite entertainment package that included all Middle Eastern TV and radio ("all" as in from a whole bunch of countries in a variety of languages--Farsi TV from Iran, Arabic TV from a few different places, Urdu TV from Afghanistan, etc, "all" except Israeli TV and radio, basically). I remember watching The Magic School Bus in Farsi at their house and being surprised that Ms. Frizzle's hair wasn't covered in the Iranian version. I think they got some anime Masterpiece Theater classics, too, but that's not a whole lot of anime or animation in general. I feel for anime & manga fans who live in Iran or other Middle Eastern countries that wouldn't allow anime in for moral censoring reasons.
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