Forum - View topicThe Fall 2014 Anime Preview Guide - Psycho-Pass 2
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MaxSouth
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The first psycho-pass was disastrous in terms of how infeasible and poorly thought the concept and details of the future were.
Most people can overlook it and hence enjoy the show, but I was insulted, could not continue beyond couple of episodes. Poorly though shows about the future always remind me about blinking tube TV screens from otherwise great Akira film -- it was known by that time that future screens will be flat and will not blink, so the disregard to details takes me aback every time. My point is that if you do not care about scientific fiction per se, but only want to tell your story, then you better move it to different time period where you do not have to care about those details. Scientific fiction is probably the hardest genre because most of stories and dramas would be impossible to unfold with the advancements of technology in the future. You have to spend incredible about effort and time, carefully trying to get the story together smoothly and in a way that is feasible in the setting. Alas, most authors can not do that, and fail. |
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Memmy
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I think Akane was always the kind of character who prefer saving someone when it's possible over killing, like she did with that lady survivor in the first-ish episode of the season one. Except now she may cover-up her idealism and true intention to break Sybil from the inside.
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EmbraceMe
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@MaxSouth
Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're getting at. As far as I understood, Psycho-Pass was a cyberpunk anime and I didn't have any problems with its setting or portrayal of the future. What exactly was wrong with how it portrayed the near-future for you? I'm curious because I thought it did things well. |
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x_silversurfer
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I thought this was alright. The first series was much better at integrating the themes and I know this is the first installment in this season but I felt it was a bit drab. Sure it was exciting and action oriented with the same think as you go mentality of the first, but this just felt off to me. I hope that it improves, as I'll be watching this season. 3.5/5
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MaxSouth
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Videogamep
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You shouldn't criticize plotholes after just seeing a few episodes. A lot of the issues from the early episodes are explained later. |
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EmbraceMe
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Ah, I see -- that one's one of the flaws I notice about Urobuchi; he's not so great at settings but does a lot better when writing characters. I understand your disappointment with how the series neither delves into the implementation of the Sybil System nor touch on the subject of technology. I would loved to learn about these things but the lack of technological explanation didn't diminish my enjoyment of the show. From what I see, the show doesn't really revolve around the setting as much as it does around its characters; that's what I believe the show's focus was on -- primarily the clash of ideologies between Makishima and Kogami. |
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DangerMouse
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Loved season 1, so glad this is back!
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Kigosh
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This is meant as a response to Hope Chapmans thoughts on Episode 1.
Well, in terms of Akane and Gino, you are oversimplifying things way too much. Akane hasn`t just hardened, she changed in more ways. She has more confidence than in the first season, but she became much more independant. In the scene when the robot pops up and attacks Division One for instance. In Season 1 Kogami would have saved Akane in this kind of Situation, but now she can handle herself. Not only that, she gives her enforcers the order to pursue the bomber and she takes care of the robots. She gained some analytical powers, too, which is only logical considering that Kogami was her mentor. Bottom line: She didn`t harden, she grew up. I think that is the point. For Ginoza, he didn`t soften, but he became aware of his past mistakes. This episode showed how Ginoza became like in a lot of ways like his father. "If you ignore those you don’t understand, you’ll regret it someday." He is talking about himself and his father. Ginoza ignored him, didn`t try to understand him and now has to follow his footsteps as latent criminal. Even his cloths are reminiscent of his fathers. He is warning Mika to not make the same mistakes he did. He tells her to to eliminate her own prejudices. In both cases we have some decent and logical development. The changes startet to happen in de last few episodes of season one and are brought to an conclusion in this episode. Or rather, we see the conclusion of them. In Mikas case, i see where you are going. I didn`t like her, too. But this was intentional. She starts there, where Akane startet in Season 1. Akane was also the Rookie Stereotype, so is Mika. Akane was naive and idealistic and Mika is stuborn and caught up in the propaganda of the system. But I am sure there will be some development incoming. I think its ok to use stereotypes if you develop them throughout the series. But thats only my opinion. But as I said, I didn`t like her that much ^^
I think it`s much more than that. If you watch the opening carefully, spoiler[it hints that Togane might be an android vessel for Sibyl. Which would be a major Spoiler on that part...] Well, I liked this episode. It was fast paced, had some action, some good philosophy, some thriller parts, some drama, which made the episode overall balanced and enjoyable to me. I for my part am not ready to condemn this as bad writing, because it is not (yet). The question that will determin the quality of Ubukatas writing is, which direction this will take from here on. |
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JacobC
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@Kigosh: Oh, I know it's much more complex than a "hard vs. soft" thing. But there's only so much depth you can go into before it becomes horribly off-topic. The preview was already inordinately long as it was.
As for traitor-Enforcer, yeah, the truth is that he may be an android port for Sibyl, so I guess that would beeeee "anti-traitor?" I just meant he probably couldn't be trusted. Maybe he'll become Mika's Gilgamesh or something, I dunno. I'm iffy about a lot of the narrative choices so far. 
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RestLessone
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I'm also wary of this season's direction. This Sibyl-android possibility has gotten me thinking about spoiler[redhead's VA being Makishima's. What if they pull some twist where Makishima was assimilated into Sibyl and subsequently placed in a vessel to track Akane?]
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Videogamep
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@JesuOtaku: I agree that Mika's change was a bit rushed (although I didn't even remember her until you mentioned it) but there's a chance we'll see how she ended up that way. The first episode was labeled "23" (which I didn't notice until Rebecca mentioned it) so it might skip back in time for the next episode or do the entire season in a skewed chronological order ala Kara no Kyokai.
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Kigosh
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@JesuOtaku I assume you are Hope? (sorry I am new to the forum, so I am not familiar with the forum names of the reviewers).
Oh, in that case I apologize. I can understand your problem. My texts tend to get way too long, too ^^
Well on Toganes character, I have a theory, but it stands on shaky legs. Akane for instance seemed to be very critical concerning Sibyl. She told to the bomber that his actions were understandable and that society would need them. This seems very rebellious. On the other hand she said to Mika that she didn`t chose to not follow Sibyls assessment, but wanted to give Sibyl a chance to change its judgment. This looks like she was actively trying to convince Sibyl to change its mind. As Rebecca Silverman noted, it seems that Akane wants to change the system from inside. I think, and this is big speculation, she wants to convince Sibyl to reform itself by showing it the paradoxa of its own making (like the bomber who doesn’t get a good job, because his hue is unstable, but then becomes a criminal because he doesn’t get a good job…).spoiler[ Togane might be Sibyl observing (or controlling) Akanes choices and evaluating her philosophy.] She accepted Akane as moral authority before. Sibyl let Akane make a judgment it wasn`t capable to do itself. (But then the thing he said to the bomber wouldn`t make much sense, since it is hard to believe Sibyl would say something like that). I think this season might introduce some kind of dialog between Akane and Sibyl. Under this presumption Togane might make some sense. But yeah, its maybe too much of speculation based on only 23 minutes ^^ |
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JacobC
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Yarp.
There are 22 episodes in the original show. 23's just the next one. ^^;
Well, they better f#*ing not! His brains should currently be fertilizing a small patch of ground off the side of a wheat field right now, not pulling puppet strings at Sibyl!
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Videogamep
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Yet another thing I forgot. I might need to look up episode summaries or something to refresh my memory for the smaller details. |
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