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Araki
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Wrong. The ratings were high, it even beat One Piece now and then. Kai had almost twice more viewers than Toriko has in the same timeslot. The truth of the matter is that Kai didn't give Bandai an expected merchandise sales boost - the "Dragonball" name kept delivering the same amount of money, regardless of Kai. So Toei realized it was pointless to keep it going if they could use the timeslot for a current manga adaptation with new potential. |
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suprememoonempress
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I think it could well but would need better graphics, the cell saga for me was okay and the earlier saga was cool but since This is my favorite sada I might it when they have it at my local Target
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PurpleWarrior13
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They're sure taking their sweet time. This was first confirmed over a year ago. I didn't think anyone still cared about Kai since it was yanked off of Nicktoons. I guess it's good to see it given some closure for at least on Vortexx. And what about that Ocean dub of Kai? We started hearing about that almost FOUR years ago. Even the UK is playing FUNi's dub...
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the-antihero
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Please FUNi, put Bruce Faulconer's music in the Buu arc! The Japanese music (or lack of music in the case of DBZ) makes it dull.
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getchman
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they go in to some court battle years ago, so that wont happen |
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A5J4DX
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took their time...
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penguintruth
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Fortunately, they don't do the abominable practice of replacement music anymore. It's for the best, since Faulconer music is mostly dreck and has no place in anything DB/Z-related. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Your hatred is blinding you, causing you to miss the point. It isn't a matter of which score is better or not; quality is irrelevant*. Given that Faulconer's score is how most English-speaking fans remember Dragonball Z, not including it is hugely detrimental to the nostalgia value of the release. And since nostalgia is the primary reason why fans would buy a two-decades-old mediocre children's show in the first place, leaving out such a critical component has to hurt sales. If it was legally and financially possible to include Faulconer's score then by gods they would. * That said, the music in the American version for Goku's Super Saiyan 3 transformation sounds heaps better than the music in the original Japanese version. |
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KabaKabaFruit
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I love how anime fans argue how American replacement music is a cardinal sin in anime when such music, when composed properly, can help add to the scene instead of replacing it. Bruce Faulconer is a prime example of this. |
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penguintruth
Posts: 8468 Location: Penguinopolis |
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It's not the intended music for the show, and therefore, doesn't belong.
Admittedly, with Kai it's a bit more complicated, since Yamamoto's score was stripped from it because of his plagiarism and replaced with Shunsuke Kikuchi's music from Z, but that was Toei's prerogative as the people who made the show. Funimation doesn't do replacement scores anymore, anyway, and Faulconer wouldn't work for them anymore, either. |
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dtm42
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By your reasoning, all English dubs ever also don't belong and we should all learn fluent Japanese and watch anime the way it was intended.
Oh, I agree. The Super Saiyan 3 transformation music is the biggest example for me at how replacement music can add to a scene, which is why I mentioned it. |
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penguintruth
Posts: 8468 Location: Penguinopolis |
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Apples and oranges. There's a difference between translating dialogue to a language a foreign audience can understand and replacing the entire musical score. It's such a hypocritical argument, because DBZ is the only show that gets a pass for this because of nostalgia. If they did it to any other show there would be fan riots. Replacement scores are almost unheard of. Faulconer's tepid droning tracks are inferior to Kikuchi's large orchestral sounds, anyway. |
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dtm42
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Apples and apples. Both are changes to the original show, making it different to how it was intended. Yet you're fine with one and not fine with the other. Well, that said, you have never been happy with the fact that the English dubs exist in the first place. You go beyond disliking the English dubs. You outright idolise the original Japanese performances - which is fine I guess - but you treat them as insurmountable. As if they're the only way the show could possibly sound. I'd wager my beloved cat that if a really really really good English dub came along that kept Goku's adult voice as masculine - rather than the same girlish voice he's had since a child, like Masako Nozawa's Goku - then you'd still hate on it. Because it wouldn't sound exactly the same as the original.
Here's a piece of advice. If you don't like the English dub or Faulconer's score then you don't have to listen to them. It's not like Faulconer somehow erased the original Japanese score from existence when he made his own. |
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penguintruth
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The Faulconer score is not the real score of the show. Period. Stop desperately looking for flaws in my character to justify the defacing of the show. It's sad.
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dtm42
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Thank you for proving my point.
Faulconer's score is not the original score of the show but it is the "real score" (to send your words back at you) for hundreds of thousands of people. Pretending it was legally possible, and assuming there was enough space on the discs, for what reason would his score not be included in a home video release of Dragonball Z Kai's Buu Saga? You not liking it is not a valid reason for leaving it off. Neither is the fact that it wasn't the original score, because then the English dub would have to be left off as well. |
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