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INTEREST: Tokyo's Police Distribute Manga to Fight Illegal Work by Foreign Students


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TheSeventhSense



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:51 pm Reply with quote
I'm sorry, but a manga about students getting arrested for massaging people sounds hilarious.
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Tomibiki



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:57 pm Reply with quote
Dey takin der jerbs?!

Also, pretty sure most of Japan's adult entertainment industry is corrupt as hell and this is a fat load of hot air. Using manga as a scare tactic? Pretty sure people willing to sell their bodies already know they're going to have to thumb their nose at a law or two.
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Fabe



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:06 pm Reply with quote
Tomibiki wrote:
Dey takin der jerbs?!

Also, pretty sure most of Japan's adult entertainment industry is corrupt as hell and this is a fat load of hot air. Using manga as a scare tactic? Pretty sure people willing to sell their bodies already know they're going to have to thumb their nose at a law or two.


Yeah,but the manga make it look like the authorities are doing something about it. Which sometime is easier then actually doing something.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:12 pm Reply with quote
It's ok if they're high school girls.
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configspace



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:27 pm Reply with quote
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"Although the students may not think that there is a problem with engaging in such work,"

Because there really isn't any.

I wonder how it would be to distribute subversive manga to counter such protectionist measures Twisted Evil
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Banken



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:49 pm Reply with quote
That's about the only way for a foreign exchange student to afford living in Japan.

Although I was thinking that the only restriction was that they had to fill out some paperwork and that the maximum working hours was 28 per week. But apparently you can't work in ANY entertainment job, including pachinko parlors or possibly not even karaoke places and game centers (arcades).
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:41 pm Reply with quote
Oh noes, people providing services and receiving money in exchange.

The horror.
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:56 pm Reply with quote
Banken wrote:
That's about the only way for a foreign exchange student to afford living in Japan.

Although I was thinking that the only restriction was that they had to fill out some paperwork and that the maximum working hours was 28 per week. But apparently you can't work in ANY entertainment job, including pachinko parlors or possibly not even karaoke places and game centers (arcades).


It should be pretty obvious that this law basically exists to force foreigners out of Japan without actually coming off as "too" discriminatory.
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Banken



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:19 pm Reply with quote
Chagen46 wrote:
Banken wrote:
That's about the only way for a foreign exchange student to afford living in Japan.

Although I was thinking that the only restriction was that they had to fill out some paperwork and that the maximum working hours was 28 per week. But apparently you can't work in ANY entertainment job, including pachinko parlors or possibly not even karaoke places and game centers (arcades).


It should be pretty obvious that this law basically exists to force foreigners out of Japan without actually coming off as "too" discriminatory.


American immigration laws are even worse in some cases, FWIW. You can't even get a family visa without proof of income.

BTW, that is only for STUDENT visas. The point of that law is that you're not supposed to do things besides what your visa is for. IE, a student should be studying, not giving happy endings in a massage parlor.

For example, I have my work visa because I have mad Japanese skills, so I can't go and do manual labor on the side.

If you have a skill, or at least the right job you can still live in Japan.
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Shiratori1



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:57 am Reply with quote
Banken wrote:
That's about the only way for a foreign exchange student to afford living in Japan.


OR, you could just get a part time before you leave and save up the money necessary to live in Japan for the semester or two that you plan on being there. Rolling Eyes
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shiranehito



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:38 am Reply with quote
Interesting. My friend was also a foreigner studying in Japan. She told me that it's really hard to find a job there. She managed to get a "decent" work, though she worked on graveyard shift. She worked as a bartender and her income wasn't very satisfying. For students, of course they have to study, but how can they study if they can't even afford living?
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Banken



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:55 am Reply with quote
Shiratori1 wrote:
Banken wrote:
That's about the only way for a foreign exchange student to afford living in Japan.


OR, you could just get a part time before you leave and save up the money necessary to live in Japan for the semester or two that you plan on being there. Rolling Eyes


Says the person who has clearly never lived in Japan.
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Tenbyakugon



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:32 am Reply with quote
It's very interesting to hear the "taking our jobs" argument being used against, possibly, Americans, which are always going for that argument when it comes to illegal immigration dialogue. Laughing
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:36 am Reply with quote
Tenbyakugon wrote:
It's very interesting to hear the "taking our jobs" argument being used against, possibly, Americans

If they were concerned about American students, I would have thought they would be printing the pamplets in English also.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:44 pm Reply with quote
Banken wrote:
BTW, that is only for STUDENT visas. The point of that law is that you're not supposed to do things besides what your visa is for. IE, a student should be studying, not giving happy endings in a massage parlor.

Glad someone here gets it. This work isn't suited for someone who is in the country to be educated. Particularly when it's so common a tactic (in the US at least) to use a student visa as leverage to force someone to work in the sex industry.
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