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The unlicensed Studio Ghibli titles (of North America).




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The Mad Manga Massacre



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:37 pm Reply with quote
I've been a fan of Ghibli for ages and while most of their theatrical films have made it over, some of their lesser known works have never seen a home video release in the west. Is there any hope for their short films, OVAs, and non-licensed movies seeing a home video release in North America? In the case of the short films have they even seen a home video release in Japan? If not, why?

[EDIT: Made your thread title a little less long-winded. -TK]
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:12 am Reply with quote
All of the shorts they play at their museum will likely remain exclusive until Miyazaki dies and the next CEO decides to release them on a disc, unless he pulls a dick move like stipulating in his will they never be released. As for the unreleased films in North America, does Disney et al. have the licenses to those? They seem ripe for something like a Kickstarter campaign to ensure Disney doesn't look any money, or they could just try to release them under Touchstone.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:14 am Reply with quote
the pre-ghibli Hols the Prince of the Sun, Gauche the Cellist, Chie the Brat all have french dvd releases.
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:22 pm Reply with quote
Disney passed on Only Yesterday due to the references to menstruation and the No Cuts katana hanging over their heads.
Optimum/Canal released it in the UK sub-only.
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SpacemanHardy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:19 pm Reply with quote
It would be nice to eventually see Only Yesterday make it over here. If not by Disney, then maybe by a different publisher. I know that Sentai Filmworks has the rights to Grave of the Fireflies and that GKIDS has From Up On Poppy Hill, so either of them might be willing to pick it up. I know that GKIDS was willing to release and market Poppy Hill to kids even despite it's references to spoiler[possible, yet thankfully false incest].
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ReverseTitan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:35 am Reply with quote
My problem with Disney/Buena Vista is that they erroneously refer to Nausicaa as a Ghibli film, even though it's not at all. It was produced by Tokuma Shoten and Topcraft and was released in March 1984, over a year before Ghibli was even formed in October 1985. The first Ghibli movie is Castle in the Sky, released in 1986. Hence why Kiki is considered their first success and not Nausicaa, since Nausicaa is not only not a Ghibli, it made over 700,000,000 yen compared to its $1 million budget, which would have been close to 250,000,000 at the time, so that meant it was a success.
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Jose Cruz



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:20 pm Reply with quote
On box office figures:

Nausicaa made around 1 billion yen in 1984. I don't know it's production budget but it was probably around 250-500 million yen. Castle in the Sky made only (I think) 780 million yen at the box office which wasn't enough to cover it's production and distribution costs, since it was made on a bigger budget than Nausicaa and note that only about 40-50% of the box office income becomes distribution income to the studios. Still, it made a profit after some time thanks to income from VHS sales and TV.

Ghibli's films only started to make profits directly at the box office with Kiki, which made around 4 billion yen at the box office. Princess Mononoke later made almost 20 billion yen and Spirited Away made over 30 billion yen, being the highest grossing film of all time in Japan up to now.

Ticket prices in Japan are about constant over the past 30 years (varying by about 10%) so yes, Spirited Away made about 40 times more money and sold about 40 times more tickets than Castle in the Sky. Today even many anime films derived from late night anime sell more tickets than Castle in the Sky did.
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