Forum - View topicANNCast Classic: The Life and Kime of Geneon, USA
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ActionJacksin
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So is this the same audio from 2009, or what? Are there some sections of the interview that have expanded upon maybe?
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ljaesch
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I think this is a great idea, so people like me who started listening later in the podcast's run can hear some older classic episodes without having to dig through the archives. Also, this allows an ANNCast to be available each week whether or not a new podcast has been recorded.
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Mesonoxian Eve
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This is one of the most informed interviews of what was really going on behind the scenes of early anime, and removes many of the false beliefs people have of why Geneon failed.
If you've never listened to an ANNCast before, make this one the first. |
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Happiness for Subaru
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Seconded. I really appreciate it being reposted to iTunes too! |
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Fronzel
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Back in the days when the ANNCast would list more than two time indexes for topics.
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Charred Knight
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Ah yes the Life and Kime of Geneon, USA the podcast that makes me you cringe that a company thought that Cybuster could sell over 10,000 units.
This is the best podcast simply because Geneon operated on the belief that the 20 percent growth year after year was not a fad, or a bubble but permanent constant growth, and as soon as it stopped growing 20 percent a year Geneon went out of business. I think you could have hired 20 random people on this forum and they could have run the company better. |
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Fronzel
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The American Way! |
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Blood-
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I missed this the first time around and look very much to listening to it soon. I like this idea of replaying key ANNcasts when the regular version is on hiatus.
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MentalMachine
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Here's the problem. Geneon USA wasn't run by Americans. It was run by Japanese, who somehow thought Japanese esque pricing works in the USA. It did not and they failed hard. Yeah, Trigun, Akira, Tenchi Muyo, Hellising+Hellsing Ultimate and maybe FLCL are some of the best selling anime they had, but a lot of other just imploded right in their faces, because Geneon USA were incompetent and couldn't market for shit. |
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belvadeer
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That reminds me, I still need to watch all of Demon Lord Dante.
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ikillchicken
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Are you sure you're not thinking of Bandai Visual? As far as I know Geneon never tried any Japanese pricing. They did singles of course but that was exactly what every company was doing at that time. And it worked just fine for a while if not in the long run. But again, that wasn't a Geneon specific thing and it was far from their biggest problem. |
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penguintruth
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Geneon was that company that licensed titles that I figured I'd wait later on to get. Titles I was interested in, but that generally took no priority in my collection. I regret that attitude somewhat, but with Funimation having saved a lot of those titles, I find myself still putting off collecting them, so how interested could I have been, really?
It's kind of a bummer that the second Lupin III TV series never did any real DVD numbers. I wish that Discotek could at least get the episodes that Geneon dubbed. I could put it next to their release of the first TV series. |
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SpacemanHardy
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Geneon might not have had exact Japanese pricing, but they were by far the most expensive anime company besides BV back in the day. While everyone was doing $30 singles, FUNimation, ADV, and to a certain extent Bandai would support discounts and coupons. Geneon, however, insisted on selling their products at the highest possible cost, would not honor coupons and rarely, if ever, put their items on sale. If you were to go to a Best Buy during the "good ol' days", you'd notice that a typical FUNimation DVD would cost between $14.99 to $24.99, but every single Geneon DVD, regardless of episode count, would be $30. Not only that, but while the other companies would later release their shows in boxsets at a greatly reduced cost, Geneon would only put out certain shows in boxes, and would charge EXACTLY the same amount as the combined price of all the singles. Not only that, but oftentimes they would include exclusive special features that you could only get by buying the boxset, so anyone who had been collecting the singles up to that point would pretty much be S.O.L. And of course, we can't forget those "special edition" Hellsing: Ultimate releases, which ran around $40 for a show that was only 48-50 minutes.... So yeah, Geneon may not have been mirroring the Japanese price model as exact as Bandai Visual did, but they most definitely were taking some pointers from it. And there's one particular man you can thank for that... 
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nightjuan
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This was indeed a great podcast about the unfortunate end of Geneon, though I'm admittedly not going to revisit it right now. But hey, if it works for others or those who might have missed it, that's totally fine by me. I'm not opposed to the idea of re-releasing iconic episodes.
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Fronzel
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That fact that it takes several score episodes before the second series truly hits its stride might have something to do with it. There's a lot of mediocrity in that earlier stuff. I really liked their dub, too. Great casting. Shame about the "updated" script. |
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