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getchman
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:36 pm
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this show was terrible, but I like Eric Vale and Felecia Angelle is really good. so conflicted
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Hellwarden
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:41 pm
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Titties.....titties everywhere.
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TrailOfDead
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:42 pm
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oh hey, Bamboo made it into the ad copy
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FrameFreeze100
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:58 pm
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No Jamie Marchi and Lydia Mackay in a FUNi fanservice dub? Pass...
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Hypeathon
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:06 pm
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pachy_boy
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:36 pm
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I know this shouldn't be a surprise at all, but still--that is just pure misogyny right there. Funimation had always put out boob-centered crap before, but wow in this case. And it truly amuses me how Funimation does absolutely nothing to cover how misogynistic this blatant piece of trash is, without going so far as using the 'm' word. Very interesting to say the least. Okay, I'm done.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:41 pm
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Their tagline for Sekirei was 'Boobies for the Win'. This is just par for the course.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:57 pm
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Misogynistic or no, I thought the trailer was pretty alright.
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configspace
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:16 pm
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pachy_boy wrote: | I know this shouldn't be a surprise at all, but still--that is just pure misogyny right there. Funimation had always put out boob-centered crap before, but wow in this case. And it truly amuses me how Funimation does absolutely nothing to cover how misogynistic this blatant piece of trash is, without going so far as using the 'm' word. Very interesting to say the least. Okay, I'm done. |
You know misogyny means = mis + gyn = hate or aversion of women. The same analogous etymology for misanthropy. Think genocidal tendencies, except towards a gender. That's what the word is supposed to mean. The creators and the fans don't have an aversion towards women. They/we like them. But nowadays, unfortunately when "sexist" is not enough to describe someone's dislike, "misogynist" is thrown in instead.
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Echo_City
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:16 pm
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FrameFreeze100 wrote: | No Jamie Marchi and Lydia Mackay in a FUNi fanservice dub? Pass... |
This. I'm not sure what character Colleen cast herself in this as but there are only a few character types that I believe she excels at and she isn't exactly known for playing them too often (too often she plays roles that Mackay should have IMNSHO). This does have Luci Christian, who has demonstrated herself to be pretty good in these fanservice shows (despite her interview in Adventures in Voice Acting). That she plays innocent, winsome characters for Sentai and pervy characters (or at least characters in pervy shows) for Funimation continues to amuse me.
Kinda hoping that Clink's dub of this has her back on the "straight and narrow" as she stumbled with Guilty Crown's dub. Then again, with a cast of B-listers and a show that bad I don't know if any acclaimed director could have done it without the resulting dub marring their reputation.
I'm kinda surprised about the cast list as from what I heard this show should make We Without Wings look like a PG-rated show and yet that show's cast list was rife with aliases while this has seemingly none. In fact, I'm pretty sure that there are actresses in this who used aliases in We Without Wings.
Jerry Jewel is in this? Is there a character who is supposed to sound completely apathetic and disinterested in life?
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configspace
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:27 pm
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Echo_City wrote: | I'm kinda surprised about the cast list as from what I heard this show should make We Without Wings look like a PG-rated show and yet that show's cast list was rife with aliases while this has seemingly none. In fact, I'm pretty sure that there are actresses in this who used aliases in We Without Wings. |
This is still pretty tame compared to many others. Among recent shows, Funimation's Highschool DxD (and even more so with DxD New on BD with extra footage) and even their sub-only OniAi is much more risque. Sentai's catalogue has more shows that register in the higher ecchi levels IMO. But I don't know about alias usage since I'm not familiar with VAs.
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getchman
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:29 pm
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Echo_City wrote: | I'm not sure what character Colleen cast herself |
Listy is the princess of the land Akatsuki came back from and really unimportant
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pachy_boy
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:50 pm
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configspace wrote: | You know misogyny means = mis + gyn = hate or aversion of women. The same analogous etymology for misanthropy. Think genocidal tendencies, except towards a gender. That's what the word is supposed to mean. The creators and the fans don't have an aversion towards women. They/we like them. But nowadays, unfortunately when "sexist" is not enough to describe someone's dislike, "misogynist" is thrown in instead. |
Rewatched the trailer, and I fail to see how it's not an aversion. The girls are practically nothing but objectified and treated as low as the lead guy's feet. Maybe you and I just have different standards or we're just not watching the same thing, I don't know.
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configspace
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:06 pm
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pachy_boy wrote: | Rewatched the trailer, and I fail to see how it's not an aversion. The girls are practically nothing but objectified and treated as low as the lead guy's feet. Maybe you and I just have different standards or we're just not watching the same thing, I don't know. |
Objectification is not aversion. In the fujoshi/otome shows, games, and manga, all the dudes are objectified. That doesn't mean the female audience are disgusted with them. It's the opposite in fact because it still implies a type of strong attraction. Wishing women would not exist and not wanting to deal with them is what misogyny (as its literal roots) really means. There are some cases of gay men in the ancient world who hated women, hence the term (Japan also has an equivalent term for the same instances in the classical times for gay men hating women) I just wish people and various movements would stop distorting language just to try to up the ante.
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TrailOfDead
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:30 pm
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1) "liking women's bodies" isn't the same thing as "liking women"
2) words "really mean" what the speaker and the listener mutually understand them to mean
3) in classical times, the word "misogyny" meant what it does now, not that thing about gay men, where did you even get that
a text that uses the humiliation and subjugation of women for titillation could certainly be called misogynistic
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