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Iritscen
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Yes, it is. Some people are just generally close-minded and/or negative. Once I identify a person as being one of those, I try to avoid them. Obviously that would be hard if they lived in the same house, so I sympathize with those who have to deal with family members who hate anime/manga.
True, true. You know, sometimes I think people need to have it explained to them how anime isn't all for kids so they don't think less of those who watch anime. Other times, I think, "You know, that's not really the point. The point is that, even if I watch kids' shows, it really shouldn't say anything negative about me if I'm a generally mature person." A person should be able to watch Looney Tunes or Pokemon without being judged, regardless of age. It's like when guys question another guy's masculinity over something he likes/does that's not stereotypically guy-like. When that guy doesn't care what his peers say, we call that "being secure in his masculinity", at least tongue-in-cheek. Well, I try to be secure in my adulthood. That means I don't care if something I do or like isn't "age-appropriate" in the eyes of others. At least, that's how I try to live  It can be hard to admit to a hobby/interest that you know could immediately lead the other person to judge you. You just have to get over that hurdle and make yourself speak the words, "I like anime", "I read manga", etc.
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Shonen Bat
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[quote="Iritscen"]
So true. Example, I like no LOVE Yu-Gi-Oh! but so many people hate it and bash it for no reason. It's just a show. Unless the creator killed someone close to you, you have no reason to hate it. I don't like Avatar but I don't bash it. I'm not insecure or retarded like people who bash Pokemon or Yu-Gi-OH!. I don't even like Pokemon anymore(Except for the Lucario movie) yet I feel sorry for it. Same with Yu-GI-Oh! Hating on Yu-Gi-Oh! or any manga/anime in general is like hating Avatar. Both are popular and should be enjoyed by those that like them.
My family doesn't hate it. My dad doesn't like anmiated series in general(Altough he DID watch Beavis and Butthead with me and my brother). MY mom likes it as does my not racist grandma. My brother just doesn't like the style. That's really it. He's got friends who are otaku(makes me wonder if they know he's got a little brother who likes anime?). Maybe if I showed him series like FMA or Hellsing he might like them. But I don't want to push anime onto my brother. After all, to each his own. |
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chrisb
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I rarely show people my manga except my cousins who are into anime. My cousins find it hard to believe I'm into comic books and even more surprising is that they're girly stuff. My male cousins are into manga but they have never heard of the series I read and are pretty interested until the whole book is "I love you!" "No I love you more!" I gave Peach Girl to my little girl cousin who's nine and she took it to school to show everyone. Well I took that away haha but I had also given her a Super Gals DVD since she loves the series, hope I'm not corrupting the kid. Anyway my cousins just see my books Saint Tail, Peach Girl, Life, Crossroads, NANA, and Koi Kaze on my PC so it just surprises them and they think I'd atleast be reading shounen material.
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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I think if you don't like something so be it. Don't go and bash it, or the people who do like it, simply because you don't. Try and understand what the subject matter is first then form your damn opinion. Don't jump to conclusions. Manga/Anime get a bad rap a lot of times because of people not taking 5 seconds to even ask 1 question on the subject. Plus, the violence in video games/tv does turn parents off. I worked retail for many years and had many parents tell their kids no to anime because they associated it with violence in games/tv and said it's all the same. Even if I hate a show or manga I'll still talk about it. You may find something out that changes your mind. One example, while not anime, is Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I thought that show so so damn stupid. Then I watched a few episodes with my gf because she asked me to and let her explain it some. I kinda got into it. Next thing I know I'm talking like Meatwad and Carl. Despite my rants about my family I give props to my dad. He's always supported me and never told me no in terms of what I read or watch. He made sure I understood the material at a young age if I watched something violent or "sexy," but he never told me no. just made sure I was educated and then let me be. I love killing my hoes in GTA but I don't go out and do it in real life and he knows that. He actually thinks some of the anime is pretty neat, especially the really new really nice looking shows with great animation. he thinks some of it is pretty cool in terms of CGI. He loved the new re-make of Appleseed and even liked Final Fantasy Spirits within. I've even gotten him to watch Princess Mononoke and Howl's moving Castle. He also loves my Lady Death comics. |
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Shonen Bat
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I can't stand people who bash stuff for no reason. Like Grand Theft Auto(Right, Jack Thompson?). I'm sick of people saying it drives people to kill when that's definately not true. My brother plays it but I bet he's never wanted to go out and shoot cops or steal cars. I WANT to play it but my folks seem to think I'll become "violent" and probably want to f**k hookers when I'm ONLY a 15 year old boy!
And a similar case would be saying alll anime is is Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! when that's not true either. My brother knows there's more to anime than just that. He's at least not ignorant about it. Saying that's all anime is is like saying "all rap is blings and hoes" when there are good rappers but their being underrated makes it hard for them to be well known. Truly, truly sad how society thinks. Reminds me of something a little similar. One time in September, school was out and one of my friend's parents hadn't picked him up yet. So I stayed to keep him company and we start talking about siblings. He said he doesn't get along with his sister but I said that I get along with my brother and that we love each other. Then he says "That didn't sound right". I was thinking "Dude, WTF?!" There's more kinds of love than gay and straight love. How about BROTHERLY LOVE?! God, now you can't say you love your older brother without people thinking you're gay(loser freaks). 'Course sisters can say they love each other but NEVER, EVER can men say that. Oh, no. Well I love my brother and am glad to be his little brother. BROTHERLY LOVE ALL THE WAY! I already said this once, be proud of what you like. Don't let the bastards in today's society get you down. |
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coolGAL
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aya_honda
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Well, the ability of people to understand that we are not supose to resemble is very limited. I met many people that judged me because I liked this or that, especially anime and manga. I always have a volume of manga with me. I travel a lot and I don't want to get bored or to waste my time by watching the same things over and over again. So I don't hesitate to read a manga volume in a public transportation. I had two reactions coming from people in the bus: the ones that I thought I was in highschool would give me the look: At your age it is still acceptable. The ones that thought I was a university student (which, by the way, I am) would give me the look I can't believe that you still read this. I had people who actually came to me and told me that I would better read a good book. (they didn't even know that I'm major in literature, evil creatures). And I thought: why not? I accept all the strange tastes that people, whom I have met in my life, have. I never judged because I knew how much it hurts when I was judged.
psycho101, like you said, for some of the people I have met, they had the same opinion: they are all the same because they once had the possibility of having a glance at something perhaps not even remotely similar. And I hate when people start to show of their culture and education by taking a superior air and just expose their judgements without any real arguments. I'm sorry, but remembering my collegue who was afraid of saying that she likes manga and anime makes me crazy even now. 
Iritscen wrote:
Sometimes I have the same reaction as you do: I really want to explain that manga and anime aren't what they think they know about them, but lately I have become increasingly tired of hearing this sayings: Oh, they are just cartoons. Or They are just comic books. You know what it is said: ignorance is a blessing. In the case of these people ignorance is a pain in the a**. That's why I love and respect my family so much: they encouraged me to like whatever I think fit for me and I know that they won't give up doing this. Btw, sorry for getting heated up. I sound like a militant for human rights in this post.  
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Richard J.
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I'm not a fan of GTA or Jack Thompson (why must we share a last name? Why?) Personally, I prefer playing the hero. I'd rather be Max Payne mowing down criminals or Rayne slicing her through vampire's and their minions. Violence for a good cause is much more enjoyable to me. Nothing wrong with GTA necessarily, just not my kind of game. Jack Thompson, as a real world person, needs to wake up to the simple reality that he's crusading against things that aren't real. If he's so concerned about violence in the schools or whatever, how about pushing tougher rules against bullying? Playing games didn't cause Columbine or any of the other school shootings. The majority of them were caused by kids being bullied deciding that their only choice was too kill.
I used to get strange looks from people when I said I loved my parents and they really gave me a weird one when I said I loved my sister. What the heck is wrong with people? It's like everyone is supposed to hate their family and if they don't, then there must be something incestuous going on. I'm 24 and I've got a bit of a dirty mind, but I've never jumped to such a conclusion without some sort of just cause. aya_honda: I can relate to the whole thing with people giving you odd looks when reading manga. I don't read much manga in public, but I read a lot in general, and routinely I've had people ask me if I was reading something for a class. When I answered "no, I'm reading it for fun" people gave me this strange look, like I'd just admitted to torturing kittens or something. Is it so strange to read a book for fun? Sometimes I think the human gene pool needs a strong dose of chlorine, if you catch my drift. 
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fighterholic
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Or how about crusading against R rated movies and kids trying to get into them, or the crap that we have on TV, as well as trying to abolish porn? I see nobody touching porn at all. This guy is a ditz. |
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aya_honda
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I don't even want to start the terrors that I had for liking to read a lot. Damn, I think what people really need is a dose of common sense and tolerance. I mean, even the most educated ones make huge blunders and believe that they have the right to talk about everything even if they don't know anything about what they are blabbing about. |
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Shonen Bat
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Thanks Richard. No one's ever said that to me before(A few people have but not many). I'm still a bit immature at times but that's part of what being a kid is about. I'm still cheerful and hyper and damn proud of it. Then again it sorta runs in the family. My brother and mom are like that but my dad is pretty serious.
The question on my mind is why is his first name the same as mine? From now on, I want to be called Johnny.
And yet this guy thinks he's Superman by protecting kids from "violent" games. Should Zelda be crusaded because Link carries a sword and other dangerous weapons? Should Mario be crusaded becuas he eats shrooms? NO! They're fictional games. Just like Grand Theft Auto.
I get accused of being gay just becuase most of my friends are guys. Yet I HAVE had girlfriends and I've been on a date with a girl so I think that means I'm straight. Yes, I have not had sex yet but then again, I'm only 15. No one in my family has had sex UNTIL they became an adult.
Oh yeah. I love my brother so much we *beep* all the time.[/sarcasm]. I don't see why society is so stupid with this stuff. Yeah I DO love my brother and when he comes down to see us, I DO cling to him but that's because I'm his younger brother not because I want to "have" him(If you know what I mean). I don't understand WHAT is so difficult to understand about this. Be happy you love your family. I love my immediate family and my friends. And y'know what? I'm not ashamed of it. I'm not ashamed of loving my brother. I'm damn glad to be his little brother. Sorry for the rant. |
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Richard J.
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In college, I've run into a few of those so-called "educated" people who like to talk about things they don't know anything about. I got into a rather heated exchange once with a fellow student in my Criminal Justice course regarding the punishment of murderers and how murder affects families. I don't want to go into what was said, but it left me firmly convinced that some people should never have been allowed to learn how to talk.
On the issue of sex, let me say this, don't let anything pressure you into having sex before you want. I used to be very selfconscious about being a virgin, until I caught up with some guys I went to school with. They were working at the local McDonalds (well, until it burned down) and the autoshops in town because they had to pay child support. Seeing people I used to think were pretty cool flipping my burgers and changing the oil in my car really changed my perspective on the whole issue of being a virgin.
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aya_honda
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Richard J wrote:
I was lucky in highscoll; I had some pretty cool collegues who didn't mind my passion for reading. Anyways, now I'm a full-time student being major in English literature, while I also attend an art institute. The reading problem doesn't exist anymore, but it has become a problem of what I am reading. I mean, if I like to read manga, why is such a big issue for everybody?! The liberties that all the people preach nowadays seem to be rather imaginary since some of the people have still difficulties to admit what they like. My collegue is not afraid anymore to admit that she likes manga and anime because I am with her and I can encourage her. But it won't be always like this. Someday she will have to face this kind of narrow-minded jerks all by herself and I sincerely doubt of her force to face them. |
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fighterholic
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My Japanese friend came over and stayed at my house the night before last. ANyway, while I was in my room, she came in and saw that I had Lovely Complex, which she did not know about at all. She started reading from volume 8, which is probably the highlight of the series, but she was missing out on what goes on before volume 8. Anyway, when she read it, she wanted to borrow that volume from me. I told I'd bring it to school on Wednesday, but she seems to have gotten hooked on Love Con.
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Shonen Bat
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[quote="Richard J."]
At first I was being pressured about not having sex by most of my seventh hour class (I'm in special ed so it really shows for those guys). It just makes me sick that teens around my age think that just becuase they turned the big 1 3 at a time, they're all of a sudden responsible adults. I must be one of few teenagers who knows he's still a kid. Nothing wrond with being a kid either. Some adults stay kids to connect to the younger generation. My brother's a young adult but is like a kid at times but it could also be because he's got a kid brother(me).
This one guy I knew in 9th grade(he was a senior) had a child(Don't know when) and yesterday, I heard he went missing and left his child with the woman he.. well y'know.
Thanks, Richard. Boy a lot of you guys understand me better than the people I know in real life. |
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