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REVIEW: Valvrave the Liberator eps 7-12

Quite possibly lost in the hubbub over the rape scene is that it is, in fact, a quite well-used and well-executed scene.

So let's get the elephant in the room pushed out the door right now: Episode 10 has an obvious sex scene which could quite easily be interpreted as rape. Whether or not it actually is rape depends on whether one puts more weight on the perpetrator's intent or the victim's reaction, as the equanimity with which the victim handles the situation – both during the event and in the days after – suggests that she was not particularly troubled by what the perpetrator did; in fact, the perpetrator is ultimately considerably more bothered by what he did than she is, and she refuses to let him take blame or responsibility for it.

Glad to see Theron had the same reaction to the infamous scene that I did. A nice counterweight to Bamboo's achingly superficial view of the same material.

I tried to watch the first 15 minutes of Valvrave. I failed. The art and visuals are inferior to Gundam 00 S2/Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion R2, which was produced in 2008, were from 5 [expletive] years ago. And unlike Gundam 00 S2/Geass R2, were 25 episodes, Valvrave is 12/13 episodes. So why is the art inferior to shows from half a decade ago?

I tried to watch the first 15 minutes of Valvrave. I failed. The art and visuals are inferior to Gundam 00 S2/Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion R2, which was produced in 2008, were from 5 [expletive] years ago. And unlike Gundam 00 S2/Geass R2, were 25 episodes, Valvrave is 12/13 episodes. So why is the art inferior to shows from half a decade ago?

Blood- wrote:

Glad to see Theron had the same reaction to the infamous scene that I did. A nice counterweight to Bamboo's achingly superficial view of the same material.

Yes, how dare Bamboo be upset about what happened. Clearly she can only understand it in "simplistic" terms.

That's a vapid argument. I don't blame for Bamboo being upset - it was supposed to be upsetting. I just found her take on how the show handled the incident to be misleading. If you go by her, you would think the show itself treated the event lightly, which wasn't my interpretation at all.

I don't mean to defend Valvrave, I haven't seen it, but this is a silly complaint.

Fencedude5609 wrote:

Blood- wrote: Glad to see Theron had the same reaction to the infamous scene that I did. A nice counterweight to Bamboo's achingly superficial view of the same material. Yes, how dare Bamboo be upset about what happened. Clearly she can only understand it in "simplistic" terms.

That's a vapid argument. I don't blame for Bamboo being upset - it was supposed to be upsetting. I just found her take on how the show handled the incident to be misleading. If you go by her, you would think the show itself treated the event lightly, which wasn't my interpretation at all.

It didn't treat the event lightly during the scene itself. It was a terrifying scene and it was obviously meant to be disturbing to the viewer. However, the follow-up to the event was done extremely shoddily. A horrifying moment like that was succeeded by the two being awkward around each other like one of them did something embarrassing the night before. It was treated like the two got drunk and had sex and regretted it in the morning, not like one of them had sexually assaulted the other. Yes, I know it was the OS of the Valvrave taking control, but even then they could have had a serious scene or discussions around that (or at least more than they did), and it was just...it was poorly done. They had an opportunity for genuine drama to follow up this dark moment, and they dropped it badly.

LupinTheFourth wrote:

It didn't treat the event lightly during the scene itself. It was a terrifying scene and it was obviously meant to be disturbing to the viewer. However, the follow-up to the event was done extremely shoddily. A horrifying moment like that was succeeded by the two being awkward around each other like one of them did something embarrassing the night before. It was treated like the two got drunk and had sex and regretted it in the morning, not like one of them had sexually assaulted the other. Yes, I know it was the OS of the Valvrave taking control, but even then they could have had a serious scene or discussions around that (or at least more than they did), and it was just...it was poorly done. They had an opportunity for genuine drama to follow up this dark moment, and they dropped it badly.

Right having SAKI GET RAPED was not at all necessary for what they ended up doing with it. It was added purely for shock value, which despite what Theron seems to think, is not "edgy". Its sloppy, lazy writing.