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GAME: Time and Eternity

Why? The game sold out even before it released on NISAs site, so theres an audience for it... not even the Atelier games have done that (only Neptunia and Disgaea games do on a normal basis).

Zac wrote:

TitanXL wrote: Regardless how you feel about the game, there's no real excuse for the kind of absurd statements made in a lot of the reviews of it. Not that I never expected it to do well with reviewers to begin with given it's content that tend to be demonized here. I figured it out - you are Japan's clingy, irrational, codependent boyfriend who even Japan is getting pretty sick of.

With all due respect you need to chill. I always see you coming on here to defend anything ANN puts out like its gold and without flaw. As somebody in a semi-journalistic setting you should be a little more subjective. And you usually do it in a pretty douchebag manner as well. Oh no, somebody criticized a writer on ANN or their opinion, let me come in and make some snide comment.

RyanSaotome wrote:

Why? The game sold out even before it released on NISAs site, so theres an audience for it... not even the Atelier games have done that (only Neptunia and Disgaea games do on a normal basis).

That's kind of a meaningless data point in that we don't know how many units NISA produced for any game, the allocation between LE/RE, and how many are reserved for their site. They likely vary from title to title, based on projections.

Regardless, it means it outdid their expectations so its still a successful title for them and that theres an audience for it. Its not like a Mugen Souls where they were left with over 50% of the special editions never sold.

Why? The game sold out even before it released on NISAs site, so theres an audience for it... not even the Atelier games have done that (only Neptunia and Disgaea games do on a normal basis). Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that people who want to play it shouldn't be allowed to.

RyanSaotome wrote:

Regardless, it means it outdid their expectations so its still a successful title for them and that theres an audience for it. Its not like a Mugen Souls where they were left with over 50% of the special editions never sold.

No, you can't conclude that from the fact that the NISA store may be out of stock. To reiterate, you don't know how many units were allocated to the NISA store nor what percentage they expected would be sold directly versus third party retail. You don't know this for one title let alone all of their titles.

Basically, you have a meaningless data point. Unless NISA says something otherwise, we don't have enough information to draw conclusions about its success one way or the other.

You're really grasping at straws. If something sells out, it was a success for them.

It hasn't got good reviews even on RPG sites like RPGamer and RPG Fan.

I think this may be the first time an ANN staffer has been told to be more subjective, as opposed to the opposite.

Famitsu, however, at least with my dealings with them in the past, don't do this. It is a different culture, after all. However, the problem with Famitsu is they tend to give scores based on what they, or their readers, think they should get. The most controversial score they ever gave was 28/40 to Dirge of Cerberus. 28 is the lowest score to still be a 'good' score. Basically an obvious sign of "We didn't really love it, but it's Final Fantasy and has fans and they probably like it so here you go". If it wasn't a Final Fantasy game they probably would have given it a lower score, but since it was they treated it nice. They weren't paid to do so or threatened with advertisement money. They just did it out of respect for Final Fantasy fans and the franchise.

Neither did Neptunia or other similar 'moe anime' RPGs with sizable fanbases. Just because they're RPG sites and may like parental approved kid-friendly Ghibli adventure like Ni No Kuni doesn't mean they still can't switch to think-of-the-fictional-children mode when they see other anime games with fanservice and stuff. Being an 'RPG site' makes no real difference in that regard.

TitanXL wrote:

Neither did Neptunia or other similar 'moe anime' RPGs with sizable fanbases. Just because they're RPG sites and may like parental approved kid-friendly Ghibli adventure like Ni No Kuni doesn't mean they still can't switch to think-of-the-fictional-children mode when they see other anime games with fanservice and stuff. Being an 'RPG site' makes no real difference in that regard.

The RPGamer reviewer's criticism was almost entirely based on mechanics and system design, BTW. Oh, and they liked the second one.

Unfortunately, Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 is also much more risqué than the original game, and that's saying a lot considering some of the content of the first. There are several occasions, most of them involving a particularly grotesque boss, that just go a bit too far into perversion territory. Most RPGamers will probably find them to be in quite bad taste.

It applies similarly to Dragon's Crown (see Kotaku and other like minded sites) and likewise here. One needs to filter out Todd's entire anti-fanservice paragraph--something that again, would be seen as a Pro rather than a Con--to get to pertinent criticisms.