Forum - View topicNEWS: Trigger's Little Witch Academia 2 Meets Kickstarter Goal
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enurtsol
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This'll probably get licensed too then get a dub later anyways. It's an unfinished product - they should work on finishing the product first. If this becomes a short series or a feature-length combination with the first ep, then a dub would make more business sense since it's easier for the licensee to sell a series or a feature film with a dub, than when it was just an half-hour OVA. |
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ConanSan
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Am I mistaken in thinking that this has overlaped the combined contributions of AnimeSols' Crowdfunding efforts?
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HeeroTX
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There's a debate about having a dub (as a stretch goal) raging on the actual kickstarter page. I think this is my favorite comment from that discussion:
Considering the kickstarter includes information in Spanish and French, I DO think it's a little egotistical for American fans to expect English be prioritized over anything else (besides Japanese). |
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HitokiriShadow
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From what I've heard, yes, it's vastly exceeded it. |
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Panzer Vor
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Is the Spanish-speaking market really that much larger than the English-speaking one? For that matter, which dialect would be used for the Spanish dub? Hell, would the Chinese-speaking market even care about a dub to begin with? |
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TitanXL
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Who said anything about "barometer of good taste"? People are just responding to person who asked if Japan actually cared about it from that 'cancer script' comment, so people did. It is an answer to a question, nothing more. And it makes a bit of sense, given Trigger is the kind of company who seems more like American fans would like them more (Panty and Stocking, Inferno Cop, etc) since they tend to parodies/homages of western animation, which American fans would be more familiar with and maybe appreciate more. It remains to be seen if a more traditional project like Kill-la-Kill will be successful with Japanese audiences.
I think it has more to do with the projects situation themselves. -Kick-Heart is essentially a 10 minute indie film festival bait. Not much appeal to anime fans outside those kind of 'animation connoisseurs'. -Time of Eve was for an R1 release, which the movie was already available subbed online for awhile. So it was really only for people who wanted to own a physical copy. I think that's also Anime Sols problem, some of that stuff you can get online already and it seems like it's just for an R1 release. Plus it's older anime which fans tend to have a bias against because it doesn't look as pretty. Little Witch is the first 'normal' anime project that involves making a new episode. Basicaly, if no one donates, they will not see any more Little Witch, so 'I can just watch the free sub online' isn't an option like it was with Eve, and unlike Kick-Heart it's something that appeals to more than just arthouse critics. I'm not surprised it's doing so well in comparison to those projects. |
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Momokochan
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I wonder how much money I have given Good Smile company by now...*reflects upon life decisions*
I hope, however, now that they are helping this project that they get some nendoroids though. |
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totoum
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Maybe people jumped to this conclusion but the video on kickstarter clearly states that they were already planning to make a 2nd OVA, so we'd have gotten more little witches even if no one had donated,the 150,000 was for an extra 15 minutes on top of what they had planned. |
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configspace
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There's a debate going on now and I'm firmly on the side of the /a/ no dub proponents, not because of any hate (even though I'm mostly a sub watcher, though I do think there are some good dubs), but just to prioritize content. It's sad to see people demanding English dubs at this early production stage, when it costs a lot of money are there isn't a fully fleshed out, finished show (ova/tv/etc) yet!
It was clear from the outset that the pledge was for an extra 15 mins of content. I expect the funding to decelerate a bit now after the initial hype, but they should be able to raise enough to make this 15 mins into 20 mins for ep 3 and very likely ep 4... IF they do not waste the funds on dubs Besides why the US/English-centric demands for dubs but other international backers can tolerate not having dubs at this point? 
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lossthief
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I'm one that would like to see a dub, but I understand that the actual production comes first in terms of money. But if, say, they got enough to do everything they wanted with the episode and had the money to do a dub, I think it could be really good.
LWA has shown it can get an audience among western viewers already, and a Dub would allow it to be streamed in places besides Crunchyroll/Youtube, and open it up to a wider audience. And thus, maybe open up room for another project like this kickstarter. |
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luffypirate
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International release by a Japanese company =! R1. Directions, Inc. is handling the production. If it was in R1 hands I would be awaiting a review because of potential audio/video fuq ups (ie: they wouldn't have got the $145 out of me so easily) ;p |
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publicenemy333
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Thinking about it now, I dont think a dub should even be a stretch goal, since this is about making the episode. I wonder if it would be possible for after this is made, another company could possibly license it later down the line and make a dub themselves and make their own release. I'd be down for that.
Since were discussing other countries and other languages and how they dont want an English dub cause it means nothing for them, maybe this way, a North American company could handle a dub for any here who would want it. I hope that could be an option for down the line, or a licenser would be interested if the license was available |
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BL
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I have been following this project from the beginning since last night and I have not seen anyone demanding a dub. The sub fans from the very beginning started demanding there be no dub the way they have been carrying on it's as if dubs are evil and it will infect the show. All I have seen is people requesting they consider a stretch goal for a dub then having to defend and justify a dub. I have also seen everyone who wants a dub acknowledges there should only be a stretch goal specifically for it. And last I checked US isn't the only please that speaks English but let’s blame everything on US let’s not stop to think that maybe just maybe other English speaking countries could also want dub. The irrationality towards dubs is sad it is also sad how vile some of the pledgers have been. However, somehow people asking to consider a dub are in the wrong and should be ashamed of themselves they are so selfish. How dear they not consider other languages that could also request and support their own dubs too the same way English dub fans are doing but no it’s the selfish English-speaking fault. I'll leave you with some of the comments about dubs that have been posted. "And of course, like any good fan, I would also hate to see disgusting American voice 'actors' be allowed to touch such a wonderful work of art." "If you like English voice actors then watch western shows, there's plenty of them." "No point whatsoever. Spending a considerable amount of money on a dub to please the illiterate and/or lazy is a joke. It's also a spit in the face to backers who aren't English speakers." "Because the stretch goal could be used for something that improves the quality of the product, Oneup, rather than one that decreases the quality of the product, i.e an English language dub track" "All of this extra money and you want to waste it on something that will just degrade the show because you're too damn lazy to read subtitles. It's disappointing." "A dub doesn't add value, and, arguably detracts value since you won't be hearing what the director envisioned and instead some fourth-rate subsititute. That isn't even getting to the heart of the matter (seiyuu actually being an sustainable dedicated industry in the East, whereas in the the West you have the same 5~ actor dropouts voicing everyone). Any sane man would prefer higher quality or longer length to the addition of such barbarism." "I know for a fact that most of the backers of this project are English speaking people, but what ever you do, do not English Dub LWA 2 keep the original Japanese voice actors form LWA and put English subs. Give the middle finger to all the English dubbers and crash a plane into funimation." "Anyone that watches with dubs doesn't appreciate anime. Having the voices so off the mouth movements ruins the whole thing artistically. Just stick with lots of different subs. That and I'd rather my money go to you brilliant artists and not a bunch of mediocre voice actors (sorry to all of the actually decent dubbers out there)." I am not even going to bother with facebook comments it's the samething |
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luffypirate
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Yikes, those remarks are nasty. The illiterate and lazy one is like, really dude, why go that far? Are these /a/ crowdfunders? Such hate.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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I just want to know where this many anime fans came up with this huge amount money so quickly. Hell I don't spend more 1000 dollars a year on dvd'/blurays I can not fathom people donating that much for a animation project.
Please don't be mistaken I fully support this project but I don't have the huge amounts of money, to throw at kick-starter like other donors do. Last edited by Cecilthedarkknight_234 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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