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Zendervai
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:17 pm
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What did they expect to happen? There's literally no reason to buy the set, as the exact same quality can be watched on Crunchyroll or Funimation. And with the Crunchyroll PS3/Xbox 360 apps, there is absolutely no benefit to buying the DVDs.
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VinceA
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:29 pm
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Over .1% of those boxes are in this house.
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mrsatan
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:52 pm
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What fools. This company has botched every DVD set that they've released and they still don't get that they're the problem.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:08 pm
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I was considering buying the first set, but I changed my mind after hearing that the discs have some quality issues. That's a shame.
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johnmora
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:16 pm
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Of course they're not gonna mention the scathing reviews of the discs' quality that sent potential buyers running from the hills. Or the fact that Discotek seems to have proven there's interest and profit to be made from licensing the property.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:36 pm
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They don't realize it sold so little because the internet talks, right? Don't even think about blaming piracy or other factors, people withheld purchases because they heard how awful the sets were, and now the company's reputation is set. Let Disoctek get the show, they'll release with it care and dignity.
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mrsatan
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:46 pm
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I checked their Facebook page and they just don't get it.
They're basically saying that the complaints are all coming from whiners that would never be happy with anything. People bring up Discotek's success and they don't respond.
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jsc315
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:48 pm
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zendervai wrote: | What did they expect to happen? There's literally no reason to buy the set, as the exact same quality can be watched on Crunchyroll or Funimation. And with the Crunchyroll PS3/Xbox 360 apps, there is absolutely no benefit to buying the DVDs. |
actually the streaming quality is better then it is on DVD
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:48 pm
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Discotek is going to be releasing Harlock and Mazinger Z, and Rightstuf will be bringing out Rose of Versailles. There is a market for older beloved series, but they can't take customers for granted, the DVDs can't be shit.
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ANN_Lynzee
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:55 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Discotek is going to be releasing Harlock and Mazinger Z, and Rightstuf will be bringing out Rose of Versailles. There is a market for older beloved series, but they can't take customers for granted, the DVDs can't be shit. |
They also stated on the FB page that they used masters provided by Toei. This release coincided closely with a Japanese release of the same series. S'More has messed up with Bobobo, but it's not like Toei isn't known for providing bad quality masters for North American audiences either, like say, Sailor Moon on DVD.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:02 pm
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octopodpie wrote: | They also stated on the FB page that they used masters provided by Toei. This release coincided closely with a Japanese release of the same series. S'More has messed up with Bobobo, but it's not like Toei isn't known for providing bad quality masters for North American audiences either, like say, Sailor Moon on DVD. |
So we grant them reprieve them for an inescapable circumstance on the video quality, they were still putting far too many episodes on each disc and the subtitles were going to be burned in, making whatever bad image quality there worse.
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mrsatan
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:05 pm
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I think that's the point though. Everyone knows that Toei will try and pull this on all their business partners and to be wary of it. Everyone that is, except S'More. S'More is just so clueless about everything involved with anime and modern DVD production that it's baffling.
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Ambimunch
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:36 pm
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What a shame, and I like old anime classics
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Bamble
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:49 pm
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octopodpie wrote: | They also stated on the FB page that they used masters provided by Toei. |
That's because these jokers asked Toei specifically for the hardsubbed masters they use for the web versions. S'more clearly have neither the patience nor technical inclination to soft-sub anything, let alone a 113-episode series. After the Bobobo debacle, people were calling this months before they announced the first set's specs.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:18 pm
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Bamble wrote: |
octopodpie wrote: | They also stated on the FB page that they used masters provided by Toei. |
That's because these jokers asked Toei specifically for the hardsubbed masters they use for the web versions. S'more clearly have neither the patience nor technical inclination to soft-sub anything, let alone a 113-episode series. After the Bobobo debacle, people were calling this months before they announced the first set's specs. |
Exactly. They admitted that they had to wait than they longer expected for the masters simply because they asked for hardsubbed masters. If you want even more proof that S'more wasn't exactly the most competent company, one should consider that they & Shout! Factory were formed by the people who originally formed Rhino Entertainment, a.k.a. the company whose DVDs were all over the place in terms of quality (just look at their Transformers DVDs). S!F seemed to get the people who knew what they were doing, while S'more was formed by the people who didn't.
Finally, I can understand their logic that the DVD market sucks, because it does, but S'more brings it up at seemingly every point they can, making it come off more like a scapegoat so that they don't have to take the blame themselves. In fact, S'more has normally blamed everyone but themselves for anything anime-related.
Bobobo not having subs, even though they advertised it as having them? Toei's fault, not to mention no one ever noticing the "mistake" (the closest S'more got to admitting fault), plus the market sucks which makes it not worth the extra costs to get proper subs.
GE 999 being hardsubbed? The market sucks, so it's not worth spending the extra money & effort to encode the already-existing subs onto raw video as softsubs.
GE 999 bombs at retail? The market sucks, and the people complaining about the release wouldn't have bought it anyway, regardless of how good the release would have been.
Discotek Media has been doing (relatively) great business doing similar titles? No answer whatsoever.
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