Forum - View topicNEWS: Duran Duran No-Go on Speed Grapher DVD
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Deltakiral
 Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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Bad times, that was like one of my favorite OP songs. I mean it completely make sense for the show as well. Darn it, that kinda make me sad now when that DVD is shipped from rightstuf but oh well I am still going to enjoy this series.
I wonder how much Duran Duran was trying to take Funimation, I mean that was the 80 (I think) get over it, take what Funi was offering and run with it. I mean I like the tribute Duran Duran CD more then Duran Duran. Till next time, Delta Kiral |
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paulfear
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a lot of times bands do not own the rights to their own music. especially in cases where it has already been licensed to a territory. duran duran were on an english record label, their music was licensed to an american label for distribution here. funimation was more than likely having to deal with both the UK and US labels, the band themself, and any third party music publishers that may be involved. i just got my copy from rightstuf on tuesday (the news post says its supposed to be released on july 4th but they've already shipped it? i'm confused) but i've not yet watched it, kind of bummed now that they've changed their opening theme. i'm sure funimation tried hard, especially since it took them over a year to secure licenses for all the music in "beck: mongolian chop squad". |
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v1cious
 Posts: 6229 Location: Houston, TX |
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well that sucks. how did Gonzo get the rights?
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Grencia
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What was said about the problems with licensing is really true. I don't have any 'insider' information, but I know that Duran Duran has always been keen to work with visual media of all kinds, and anime would be right up their alley. I was fortunate enough to see them on their most recent tour, and they even had an anime-style video sequence for "Careless Memories." From what I know of the band, having been a fan since the Eighties, I have to say it's pretty unlikely that the band themselves made it impossible for their song to be used.
I may pop on over to their site and see if I can get any additional information. |
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Deltakiral
Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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Ok so now that I heard that I am a little confused your the third person that has told they have already recieved their righstuf order for Speed Grapher yet I haven't recieved jack. Did you order the special edition or regular edition DVD? But you do bring up an interesting point V1cious how exactly did Gonzo manage to pull that off, I got a feeling Funi is getting a little cheap on us............ Till next time, Delta Kiral |
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paulfear
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i ordered the regular edition back when rightstuf had their sale on funimation items (i think that was in april). |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
 Posts: 1685 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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You're right in that the band likely had nothing to do with the denial. Duran Duran has long since left Capitol/EMI (they're now on Epic, according to Wikipedia) -- and EMI has already been taken to task since then for using the band's catalog in ways they haven't agreed to. (Their music video DVD set "Greatest" -- which has what are possibly the worst menus in DVD history --being the biggest one.)
It's quite standard to grant music licenses differently in different countries. In the States, to use music in this manner, you require THREE different licenses: a broadcast license in order to play or broadcast the song with the show (even if you're doing nothing but showing it to some people), a mechanical license to manufacture DVD's with the song on it, and a synchronization license to match visuals to it. This process, I can tell you from personal experience, is not only daunting, but ridiculously expensive and time consuming. Mind you, EMI is one of the "big four" record labels, and I'm sure they wanted quite a bit of money for those rights in what is arguably their biggest territory. The bigger the hit song, the more it costs -- and that one was quite big in its day. |
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AstroNerdBoy
 Posts: 413 Location: Denver, CO |
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Sometimes, it is MUCH easier and cheaper for the Japanese to aquire certain musical licenses than it is for the U.S. publishers to. For example, the lyrics from certain Carpenter's songs were used for a story in Ah! My Goddess. When that story came up for publication in English by Dark Horse, the amount of money DH would have been charged for the license for a few words would have been way more than the licensing fee's paid for the actual manga. It was more money that DH was willing to spend, thus we got someone else's lyrics instead. It sucks, but that's how it goes. |
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noriko-takaya
 Posts: 80 Location: Edgewater, Maryland |
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Then again, they can also go the route the makers of the opening animation for DAICON IV did when they used ELO's song "Twilight". Just say screw it and use it anyways.
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omnistry
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Well that sucks. Duran Duran got me excited for this show. Cool song; so it must be a cool show, I thought.
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Crawly
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Two years of negotiations and begging along with lots of money. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
Posts: 1685 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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Funimation is a lot more likely to get their collective asses sued off than a few fan animators. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Wow, be happy you don't run a business with sense like that. |
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Deltakiral
Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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I hope your comment is covered sarcasm, because what you are inferring to is huge deal. If Funimation did that they could be sued to the point where they could be in complete bankrupty. Legal cost alone would make Funimation not be able to license a show for quite some time. Till next time, Delta Kiral |
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GATSU
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All together now: Screw greedy record companies. Instead of attracting a younger generation of fans who don't even know who Duran Duran was, but who might buy the CD if they like the song, the licensors would rather charge a premium for a song which hasn't gotten 24 hour airplay since it was first broadcast on radio and tv.
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