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NEWS: Gundam Seed Destiny HD Remaster BDs to Have English Subs

00, not a bad Gundam series, but certainly one of the weakest, especially if you've seen previous series. Hell, even AGE is surprisingly a lot better despite being nothing more than 'Popcorn Anime' and it didn't try to hide that fact.

00's originality was very much lacking, it took too many familiar elements much from previous Gundams, especially Wing and just focused on that as opposed to making its own flavor.

Good or bad at least SEED Destiny had SOME similarities but it wasn't a complete ripoff. But Gundam X on the other hand; that really went farther than most Gundam series while still actually being Gundam in the end (if that makes sense).

Unlike Wing, Maria Ismail's princess character was POINTLESS!! Relena on the other hand advanced the story of Wing.

00, not a bad Gundam series, but certainly one of the weakest, especially if you've seen previous series. Hell, even AGE is surprisingly a lot better despite being nothing more than 'Popcorn Anime' and it didn't try to hide that fact.

00's originality was very much lacking, it took too many familiar elements much from previous Gundams, especially Wing and just focused on that as opposed to making its own flavor.

Good or bad at least SEED Destiny had SOME similarities but it wasn't a complete ripoff.

Relena on the other hand advanced the story of Wing.

@penguintruth

You UC fanboys

isnt seed desitny one of the worst selling gundam franchises?

@Rahxephon91 Learn what a rip off is, Einstein. Just because plot isn't involved doesn't mean something is not ripped off.

Technically, W is a rip off of G Gundam and UC 0079-F91,

but it's still somewhat original.

Also, not all Gundams are invincible.

The Gundam MK II is inferior to most non Gundam suits in Zeta even in it's Super Gundam mode.

The O is superior to Zeta.

The Sinaju is on par with the Unicorn.

None of them are Gundams and they all offer a challenge to the strongest Gundams in their series.

1 rip off, you cannot refute

@Rahxephon91

Of course you won't go into why AGE is horrible. You most likely haven't even seen it besides the first 3 or 4 episodes.

TopGunman wrote:

Gundam AGE isn't the masterpiece that the UC, AC, AW, CC are, but like SEED and SEED Destiny, it's just supposed to be an action pop corn anime, looking at it from that angle, that makes it a good Gundam series. In fact, I dare say it was BETTER than 00 for various reasons. I'm looking forward to the AG timeline being expanded.

But just excusing it as "action pop corn anime" doesn't sit well.


You say Age may have better writing then 00. I find that to be utterly false. 00 at least season 1 tackles real world aspects and presents a pretty realistic world and conflict, far beyond most Gundam shows.

Age doesn't do any of this. Even the main conflict is hilariously stupid and the show does a poor job at trying to make it seem like anything other then bad. How does making more conflict to make a better mankind that will have grown up in war and anger make sense as a goal?

Are the jovians( I man martians) supposed to be sympathetic? Well the show tries to make them that in extremely hackneyed ways. OH LOOK A SICKLY LITTLE GIRL! FEEL BAD FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO DIE. Ok yet everyone else on this side is extremely narrow minded and following a genocidal minaic who's plan makes even less sense then Durandel's Destiny plan.

At least in 00 you have the constant question that CB may in fact just be terrorists. There's some grey in 00 and its not totally forced. The antagonists aren't all bad, some are just doing their job. Some have been affected by the Gundam's. There's actual consequence in 00.

But beyond this Age just fails on so many fronts.

The show is so totally crappily paced. Who the heck would you care if the 2nd gens protags are in conflict? You had like a sec where they are friends. I sure have no real idea that these are friends. This entire relationship is handled in the most cliched way possible. Cliche doesn't equal bad, but jesus christ was this part the most predictable part. There was no depth here, just the show making a statement that these people are friends(without developing it) and then making them enemies and we are supposed to care. Also the char clone wanted a family and this plot came out of nowhere.

The female characters a the worst in the history of the series. They have no character and are there to only serve the male characters. They are baby makers, love things(because they sure aren't relationships), and plot motivators in that they die and it ques a characters anger.

I'm sure there's more like the terrible 3rd gen main character who's insane crying somehow makes characters entire personalities change for no reason. The stupid logic of Ansem going a pirate and becoming a terrible father. But I can't remember. Pretty much everything about this show is bad. It's pretty indefensible.

You're gonna have to prove otherwise because unlike every other Gundam series which everyone has seen by now, AGE haters are mostly twats who go on and on about how bad it is based on superficial such as using a flash drive to activate the Gundam.

which by the way, is another crappy element of 00.

Sorry, but as someone who's watched EVERY Gundam series to date (except G Gundam), I can honestly say 00 is the weakest.

It was very slow at times,

the characters were modeled on the Wing boys, and Setsuna's

bitching about how God isn't real gets so bloody annoying.

Gundam 00 owes more to Full Metal Panic! than it does to Gundam Wing.

***Secret global extralegal paramilitary organisation tasked with peacekeeping and stopping wars.

***Organisation has a stealthy advanced custom-built mothership from where they launch their super-advanced robotic machines from.

***Said mothership is commanded by a female tactical genius.

***Young Arabian boy who grows up in a war-torn country, gets turned into a child soldier by a psychopathic older male who takes an interest in him.

***Boy ends up with said paramilitary organisation, with a busty female who drinks too much and a wisecracking sniper team-mate.

***But boy's ex-mentor isn't too happy and attempts to test and defeat him using another advanced machine. Boy holds a grudge against the man who turned him into a killer.

Now, which series was I talking about? The answer, of course, is both.

^
Not quite. Even discounting re-releases, Neon Genesis Evangelion is the all-time highest-selling by a country mile.

@Rahxephon91

Of course you won't go into why AGE is horrible. You most likely haven't even seen it besides the first 3 or 4 episodes.

To be fair, the CE dubs were decent at best. The best thing about those dubs are Lisa Ann Beley, Brian Drummond, Mark Oliver, Trevor Devall, Brad Swaile and Michael Adamthwaite. Matt Hill sucked as Kira. He was annoying and sounded like a surfer, which is still better than Hoshi, but Kira never get a good voice. For Destiny, Kirby Morrow is the best in that dub. Overall, the CE era dubs are pretty decent, but not great. The scripts however are fantastic and very faithful to their Japanese counterpart, as per Bandai Entertainment.