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Coral Skipper
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First let me say that I am not aware of the exact nature of the book, and if it does have pictures from hentai Dojins when they are discussing it I have no problem with him removing it, or moving it to a section where only adults can get to it.
If that is not the case I have a serious problem. Libraries are depositaries of all books and no one book should be removed just because someone has a bias towards it. |
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improviduto
 Posts: 7 Location: Erie, PA |
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Apparently pornography usurps history. They could at least have this book put in the library's reserved section.
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wildarmsheero
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I'm an idiot and a troll.
[Next time, don't drop one line, trolling, prejudice statements. Otherwise I'll make you say something a little more accurate like I did here. -Nagi] |
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DriftRoot
 Posts: 222 Location: NH |
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Someone must have complained, probably someone with children. Who ordered the book in the first place, anyways? I'd like to see them speaking up, or the library director demanding to know who let such an "offensive" item on the shelves.
Where was this book in the library? I can go and find some pretty graphic books (including those on pornography) at our local libraries, but of course only in the adult section. I'd think anyone noticing teens constantly checking out the textbook would be a little perturbed, but the last time I checked, any book at any library could be read by anyone. There's no black curtain section with a flashing neon "18 and older" sign, now is there? There's a lot of things at libraries that are not appropriate for young readers, but that doesn't mean you can go to this kind of extreme just to make sure a book doesn't fall into the hands of a 13-year-old. I wonder if they have Ranma 1/2 and if that will go out the window, too. |
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DemonEyesLeo
 Posts: 844 Location: Japan |
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Granted the book does contain some "inappropriate" material. But I still though it was a great book, very informative and very well written; a good look into the history of manga.
But I guess it was just too much for someone, and that someone just happened to be a position of power. |
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fighterholic
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Which ones, the ones in the library, the ones who rented and complained about it, or the people who ordered it removed? We could be seeing an issue coming up, because since it was near the manga section (if i read it right from the article), more people are probably going to assume that Japanese manga is pornographic and people are going to try and push to have manga removed from the library. |
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midori kou
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According to the press release, it states that the book was removed on the basis of graphic sexual acts and sex with animals. However, seeing that the book's main purpose is to have a large overview of the history of Japanese comics, I don't see the problem about it.
Reminds me of South Park's "Good Times with Weapons" episode, adults are more worried about things related to sex than violence. Funny how this book wasn't banned because all of the graphic violence in the book too. =/ |
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CochraneO
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I notice this press release is from the government guy who had the book removed from the libraries, so you'd expect that he'd go on about how pornographic the book is, justifying his action.
I've seen this story on a few other sites like http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/8510.html , which says that "the coverage made much of the fact that the book contains 'sex with animals,' but we couldn't find it; we must not have looked as hard." In hindsight, maybe the library should've shelved the book in an Art History section alongside books of Michaelangelo's nudes or whatever else, instead of the comics/graphic novel section. But even if it includes a bit of discussion of about the edgier kinds of manga, from the other--more reasonable--postings about this news story, it sounds like the book is a solid bit of art history that's appropriate for library holdings. |
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flip
Protoculture Addicts Editor in Chief
 Posts: 121 Location: Montreal, Qc |
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There are three pictures that seems to enter in that category. Pg 141: In a scene from Hideshi Hino's The Red Snake, a woman covered with snakes seems to have an orgasm. Pg 144: In a scene from Kondom's Bondage Fairies “a nympho Tinkerbell and a randy squirrel” are having sex. Pg 145: In an allegoric scene by Utatane (no title given), a dragon is deflowering a virgin to symbolize her first period. There is lots of violence depicted in the book, as well as some nudity and sexuality (particularly in the chapters 7-9, where Gravett discuss the maturity and diversity of manga, as well as the particularity of the underground dojinshi). I understand the concerns of some parents (after all some parents don't want their children to know what sex is until after the day they are 18--it is their right to do so, even if we disagree with it) and the book should not be in a section available to children. However, this is an important reference on the history of manga and it SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT be entirely removed from the library. This makes absolutely no sense. Hopefully, the person in charge will think about it and change his mind. Flip |
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omastar444
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he makes it sound like there is no porn in a library. In any library go to the art or history section. You will find porn galore. Add on top of it that this book sounds like it is informative, I don't see any reason to remove it.
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CochraneO
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Perhaps interestingly, according to this local news article (which seems to be the earliest article about these events I can locate online), it was the 16-year-old boy who was surprised and offended by the book's content, who then told his mother, who then complained to the library, and then (presumably) to the county supervisor guy who ordered all copies pulled from the libraries. I still think the book should have a place on library shelves and hope cooler heads will prevail. But I also think that once you start getting impassioned parents and local goverment involved in this sort of "Won't someone think of the children!" mentality, those cooler heads rarely prevail... |
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Alex K.
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They didn't pull it because it contained "offensive material." They removed it because they think anime and manga is violent porn. If it weren't anime, they wouldn't give it a second glance. There are plenty of pornographic books at the library; this one just happens to be from the people that make the Satanic Pokemon cartoons and the porn-filled Dragonball Z, so of course, THAT'S deemed innappropriate for the library. These morons are just biased idiots that listen to conservatists and soccer moms. "OH NO THERE'S A BOOB CALL THE PRESIDENT!" Please.
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Cowpunk
Posts: 168 Location: Oakland - near the Newtype Lab |
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This kind of thing happens all too often.
I just hope some enterprising local book dealer takes advantage of the publicity and does a display with Gravett's book int he center. |
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Tempest
 I Run this place.ANN Publisher  Posts: 10460 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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Have you seen the book in question? I admit that I haven't, but my understanding is that the later chapter(s) contain scenes of graphic pornography. I would assume this refers to penetration, not a boob or two. -t |
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Animefan16
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I've read it and while I liked it, I can see why they did this. A lot of people, even those who have watched regular hentai, may find some of the hentai pics disturbing.
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