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NEWS: Japan's Law Penalizing Downloaders, Criminalizing Ripping Goes Into Effect

The average person cannot buy things off the japanese itunes store, your friend is incorrect

first of all, Japan's credit card system is separate from ours, even though it has a visa logo there is an extremely high chance the transaction will be denied or suspended requiring you contact the bank.

jmaeshawn wrote:

I laugh at all of those who say that there is no need to download anything illegally, all of it can be obtained through legal sources.

Um....

Rukiia wrote:

There really is no need to download anymore except for maybe really really old titles that never got licensed (and/or, at this point, never will).

I laugh at all of those who say that there is no need to download anything illegally, all of it can be obtained through legal sources.

I live in Japan and have access to Tsutaya video rental shops. Everytime I walk into one, specifically the one in Shibuya, I see the floor after floor filled with 100's of thousands of DVDs and blu-rays for rent and think about how much of the material there has never seen the light of day outside of Japan. Until the day when every last thing in these Japanese rental shops are licensed and available worldwide, then there will always be a need to find material through "other" methods, unless you happen to live here in Tokyo too.

Rukiia wrote:

jmaeshawn wrote: I laugh at all of those who say that there is no need to download anything illegally, all of it can be obtained through legal sources. Um.... Rukiia wrote: There really is no need to download anymore except for maybe really really old titles that never got licensed (and/or, at this point, never will).

Okl, prove your saying Rukiia, if you are so sure, please point me to the legal English streams/simulcast of:

-Ginga he kick off
-Toriko
-Gon
-Lets try a new one of this season: Kamisama hajimemashita, it already aired no simulcast yet

The average person cannot buy things off the japanese itunes store, your friend is incorrect

first of all, Japan's credit card system is separate from ours, even though it has a visa logo there is an extremely high chance the transaction will be denied or suspended requiring you contact the bank.

Gerald Celente said this: "When people lose EVERYTHING AND HAVE NOTHING left to lose, they LOSE IT!"

That day will come, people!

The average person cannot buy things off the japanese itunes store, your friend is incorrect

first of all, Japan's credit card system is separate from ours, even though it has a visa logo there is an extremely high chance the transaction will be denied or suspended requiring you contact the bank.

as for a 'large' amount of streaming sites? I wouldn't say there are alot. I've not been to a cafe so I can't say what 'pay per minute' features there are.

Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:

Not everyone lives in america or the u.k. where the 2nd hand market is actually stable with a wide variety of titles aviable for purchase.

You are right, they don't. Yet I myself don't even live in America or the UK. I can't use Hulu because I live in Canada so I miss out on some shows. Am I going to download them because I can't watch them? No, because I am patient and will wait for future home releases. Plus Crunchyroll is and has expanded to other countries.

In my experence, there really isn't any reasoning on the insufficiency of media economic models that are compelling enough to validate the violation of the right of authors/copyright-holders to determine who can enjoy their properties and under what circumstances. Or put another way, I've never seen a convincing argument as to why the shortcomings of the media industry model (lost profits, untapped markets, technological stagnation, etc.) make any claim to enjoying a copyright-holder's works without their permission valid.

The average person cannot buy things off the japanese itunes store, your friend is incorrect

first of all, Japan's credit card system is separate from ours, even though it has a visa logo there is an extremely high chance the transaction will be denied or suspended requiring you contact the bank.

As I mentioned on page two, copyright's a utilitarian measure - it's up to the creators to economically defend the practice of granting them monopolies(though I'm not aware of any study finding a net boon to society - as far as I know they've been inconclusive when they haven't found a net drain). Most critics of intellectual monopolies go for the moral angle.