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Soundmonkey44
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I enjoy watching a good AMV from time to time, there a fun way for fans to help advertise their favorite shows, as for a form of art, well the shows they are advertising can be art, same goes for the songs. But really i've never seen them as anything more then fans having fun. The fact that the conversation for this ANNCast has become so serious honestly baffles me.
Then again this is ANN. I myself would love to make an AMV someday if I can ever figure out how to do so on my mac... after using PC's for years its a bit hard to adapt. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Lay off it man. AMVs are still popular and good ones are still being made. You seem to think ridiculing them is funny but you're just being a Grinch who isn't happy that people are having fun. My little brother made a Kingdom Hearts AMV, his first (and so far only) one ever. It sucked pretty badly. But if he enjoys doing it why shouldn't he continue making them? He's not harming anyone. He's learning out to edit video and splice audio and all that technical stuff, the sorts of things that are increasingly relevant in today's society. And he's expressing his fandom, same as any fan-fiction writer. Who the heck are you to ridicule fans like him?
It is sad to hear you say that as I would love to listen to that show. But I have to say, you did bring all this criticism upon yourself in the first place. |
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KazuAMV
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agila61
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Thanks for the interesting interview, but man, this is an extremely unsusual ANNcast discussion forum.
I thought I had an unfortunate tendency to go all Wall-of-Words on interviews that shed light on the economics of anime, but I have to concede that I don't hold a candle to the Wall of Words that dedicated members of the AMV community can put up when they get a wet sail and the strong northerly of an ANNcast interview of somebody who's been doing AMV's since the days of tapedecks to rile them up.
Its a podcast interview. Of Brad DeMoss. How many weeks of research was he supposed to do for an interview on a weekly podcast? |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Why would I need to have said that more than I already did? His name's in the title. The header text says it is an interview with Brad DeMoss. Yes, we talk about anime music videos. Here's what it does not say: "an in-depth discussion of the history and craft of anime music videos with today's most popular and visible anime music video directors". Nowhere does it say that. I don't know why you were expecting that, but it ain't my fault.
No, this is totally left field. Based on what you say here, I'm inclined to think you didn't actually listen to the podcast, either. I don't understand how you could possibly listen to that show and think that it was anything other than an interview with Brad about Brad. You thought it was something else - something literally nobody told you it would be - and then you listened to it, and it clearly was not that nor was it attempting to be that, and it's STILL my fault you're all worked up and pissed off? I'm baffled. |
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Didarina
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Irriadin didn't say that at all. I did. And while, you're right insofar as you did not literally say
You do in fact, in your own words, typewritten and verbal, address your guest and frame the conversation as
and proceed to grill him on the merits of AMV as art based on some stubborn preconception you have of what art is, instead of letting him lay it out for people. You don't talk that way to anime industry people, about the quality of their work, when you have them on the show? He defended admirably and said a lot of great things, but you were a real dick to him and talked a bunch of smack about the hobby in those 55 minutes. You shouldn't be surprised that people are pissed. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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No, I wasn't a dick to him at all. He enjoyed the interview and told me he'd like to come on again sometime. Yes, I have some harsh questions about the hobby. You are being too sensitive. I'm not going to apologize for my questions or my position on AMVs to you. I am sorry you didn't enjoy the episode - feel free to avoid the podcast in the future. Also:
So all I'd have needed to do to avoid all this whining and crying would have been to add:
Otherwise you wouldn't have gone in expecting me to talk about the brilliance of your music videos for an hour? EDIT: This is my last post on the matter. I would imagine the angry mob will get tired of this and move on to whatever the next perceived slight is soon enough. |
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siny
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It's actually funny that you called the editors who came here to discuss the podcast, as children. When, well, the child behavior it's clearly not from this side.
You keep saying this was about Brad, but you didn't conduct the interview that way and you were rude to an entire community (before, during and after). I didn't see anyone being disrespectful to you, while you are being truly unprofessional. I don't know about the others, but this:
- doesn't make me sad at all. The way you respond to the comments here shows that you would never conduct that show about AMVs with an open mind and respect about it. It's an hobby. AMVs exist because there are people who love to make them and others who love to watch. That's the only reason. If you and others can't see that, as the anime lovers we all are, it's your loss and not ours. |
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agila61
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Oh, come on, where did he do that? Sure he described some behavior as childish, but that was a fair and reasonable description of the behavior. |
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penguintruth
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[Content removed. Don't post in this thread if your intent is to simply troll the fans of something you are not personally a fan of and don't care for. - Keonyn]
Hey, are some people still making AMVs with subtitles in them? |
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Fencedude5609
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Sadly, yes. Also, is there a reason you are being such an unmitigated asshole? |
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penguintruth
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I made a few that had the time stamp thing on them. You know, from the televised footage that sometimes has the clock in the corner? I guess I was just too impatient to wait for the DVD/Blu-Ray footage. But the less said about my own AMVs, the better. |
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ssgwnbtd
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Wait.. I thought the Brad everyone was talking about was AtomX. Haha, this makes a little bit more sense now. I only read small parts of every post.
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configspace
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I've seen many of those before, like Spoil, which I consider a sort of classic now--the equivalent of Tron that raised the bar in the AMV world, lol. But some I haven't seen like Pencilhead which is just... WOW I'm also amazed at some of the simpler ones with few effects, though still well synced and edited, in just how much of a complete story with beginning, middle and end, and drama can be conveyed in just a couple minutes, without relying on lyrics either (instrumental music) like: Break - AMV.org - Youtube (Evangelion 2.0) To Reach A Dream - AMV.org - Youtube (Redline) Nikko - AKROSS.ru - AMV.org - Youtube (Genius Party Beyond) The AMV scene reminds me quite a bit of movies trailer business, which has become is an entire industry onto itself. Most movie companies in the US no longer produce trailers themselves and instead farm it out to others. e.g. http://www.trailermusicnews.com/2012/08/trailer-talk-looper-k-i-l-l-s/ (Looper trailer, also awesome and the music too) Though they don't transform the original as much as some AMVs do, it is still enough of an artistic endeavor and specialized skill to have an industry grow around it. I think a lot of anime productions could do the same and hire some people who have worked on AMVs to produce their OPs and EDs. Though I notice more are becoming AMV-like already. Or they can involve the fans by creating AMV contests and maybe even feature them in some way. I recall Sony/Aniplex did that with Ergo Proxy a while back, where they officially contacted AMV.org, and the same was done for Xam'd
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smashwagon
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I generally am one who has little use for AMVs either, but I watched a few due to this thread and this one is absolutely inspiring (I am literally picking up my pencils now.) The one labeled "paper heart" by the same editor is really amazing also. Thanks for sharing, Willag. |
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