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Sunday Silence
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The way the porn companies are pumping out these parodies and coming up with these lackluster titles is just disheartening. What happened to the wordplay in the past? The Doujins and porno parodies in Japan at least attempts to replace one of the words or make use of puns!! |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Some doujin series do just that. Ah! My Goddess has one that's been going on for years now, and there's quite a few others that go on for long periods as well. As far as I can tell, fair use does have its limitations, like in movie reviews. The people of the That Guy sight mentions this here and there, of how much footage they're actually allowed to use before legal starts breathing down their necks. |
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The Coffee God
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Considering MAD magazine has been around since the 50's and still kicking... |
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enurtsol
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Same with xeroxing books in the library for your research notes - you're not supposed to photocopy the whole book. Also, there are Storm Troopers parodies that are exact lookalikes of Lucas' Storm Troopers that Lucas can't do anything about. The key thing about fair use parody is that the parody has to be obvious, meaning it won't be reasonably confused with the original by consumers (ergo many with the word "parody" right on the title, to legally protect their asses), then it should be safe in the courts. |
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GATSU
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They let parody slide fairly easily, but they need to be less restrictive on commentary like us.
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StudioToledo
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Underground comics and Tijuana Bibles are a good example! Last edited by StudioToledo on Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Mr. sickVisionz
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That was my question when someone mentioned Comiket. Are doujins actually parodying anything or are they just taking exact characters and character designs with no changes and selling them as if they're an original creation of the doujin writer? If so, that's not really a parody at all, it's just an unlicensed creation. |
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LUNI_TUNZ
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My post jumped into the quote - that was weird. |
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Sunday Silence
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I dunno, have we ever seen Creatures Inc. release official hardcore Pokemon furry pornography? |
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Nekusagi
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to my knowledge pornographic Pokemon doujinshi are something Nintendo cracks down pretty hard on. That doesn't stop anyone- I happen to have accidentally stumbled across some particularly horrifying Subway Masters and Striaton Trio ones on tumblr in the past- but they don't seem to occur at the volume that, say, Madoka Magica or Street Fighter ones do. |
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R315r4z0r
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To be honest, I think parodies of something should be allowed only if the parody itself explains that it is not actually associated with the source material. Basically a disclaimer.
Obviously if people are confusing it for actually being part of the source material there is a problem that needs sorting out. Especially if the creator's of such a parody are earning money off of that. |
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TitanXL
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Maybe Nintendo of America. Like how Disney of America apparently does if you go by rumours. But there's tons of it in Japan. An incredible lot. Of the humans anyway. Don't really look for any of the monsters because I'm not into that. Saw some at the last Comiket I went to. Hikari is practically a sex goddess in Japan, but the current trend is Homika it seems.
That has more to do with the market, not any policies. Otaku shows tend to get more focus by the hentai community because it's otaku who buy the stuff. The mainstream shows (One Piece, Naruto, etc) actually don't get that much hentai or doujinshi compared to the more otaku stuff. You make more money making an otaku doujinshi than making a One Piece or Naruto one. Not that mainstream stuff doesn't have a ton of hentai or anything, but the more otaku appeal yields more results. For example, if you look at Comiket 81 last year. Oh God What Tier Touhou: 2690 Circles Tiger & Bunny: 1170 Circles Typical Otaku Tier Prince of Tennis: 460 Circles Idolm@ster: 417 Circles Madoka: 350 Circles Mainstream Tier One Piece: 254 Circles Naruto: 244 Circles You'll see the difference. Stuff like Prince of Tennis manage to hook a large fujoshi fanbase despite being more mainstream shows, so they get a nice boost above One Piece and Naruto which don't have as much otaku appeal. Touhou being entirely otaku gives it the biggest presence at Comiket.. and Tiger & Bunny's massive fujoshi following puts it up there as well. Of course, that's just Comiket. There's also online distribution as well. |
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jtstellar
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if they have the power to make it legal, then they have the power to make it illegal.. the failure to grasp that notion--the wisdom of some of the people on this board astounds me
the whole point of why government needs to have its pre-defined powers is to prevent it from going into area to initially claim to harmlessly 'legalize' something to 'bring something out of the gray', to 'legitimize' it, thus granting itself a place in the market place. there then has to be efforts, yes very financially straining ones as well, on the behalf of those affected to organize and petition (aka lobby) the government to maintain their 'legitimate' status under the sanction of law. this makes inherent advantages for organized/sizable corporations and corporate interests, is how some of the quasi market-monopolies here in the united states grew. once government has the power to 'legitimize' something it is inherently implied that legitimacy is granted at all in the first place because of legislators. this also means politicians can take it away at the wimp of will, meaning it an implied political pressure should people of that industry disobey any government initiatives to control, and it grants those with connections with unfair advantages, because once government can write laws to sanction and define a market, it can incrementally steer it with tax codes and other indirect legal tools because the text is already defined in a legal sense and no, government is not 'we the people'.. seeing how people can be divided into groups then each bought off with special privileges, such as social security promising off next generation's tax revenue without any consideration of feasibility, no, government is essentially a combat field of various interest groups, see which has the most 'charismatic' leader, or one in the eyes of ignoramuses anyway, and manages to gain the most influence via special favors to organized groups. in reality, government lovers are really short sighted. it's more like a dog mentality once it finds its owner.. the loyalty becomes quite instinctive and subconsciously first-natured, once it finds itself in a living off government special favors one way or another. Last edited by jtstellar on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:43 am; edited 1 time in total |
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nietzschesass
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The original article actually says they will re-consider the current law that categorically prohibits any type of parodies.
The ANN should list translators' name. |
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jr240483
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That there is an understatment. Though i can easily see loopholes on what the govt is trying to do. |
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