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Advent_Nebula
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:45 am
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I will say this once more, Melody of Oblivion is best watched in one setting, all 24 episodes.
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Verdoozle
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:43 am
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I don't see the animation as being sloppy necessarily. Like I said when the review a the first DVD came out, The melody of Oblivion has a very surreal storyline and the animation was meant to match the style of the story. I have to agree that is better to watch it in one sitting. If you don't watch it at once you just don't get all that it offers.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:20 am
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Verdoozle wrote: | I don't see the animation as being sloppy necessarily. Like I said when the review a the first DVD came out, The melody of Oblivion has a very surreal storyline and the animation was meant to match the style of the story. I have to agree that is better to watch it in one sitting. If you don't watch it at once you just don't get all that it offers. |
But it's a TV series. If you can't watch it in pieces then it's not a very well done product, don't you think? Considering shows like this air weekly, and if this show hasn't done anything good for you within eight epsodes (which is eight weeks worth of broadcast), then it's not a very good show.
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Advent_Nebula
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:27 am
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Steventheeunuch wrote: |
Verdoozle wrote: | I don't see the animation as being sloppy necessarily. Like I said when the review a the first DVD came out, The melody of Oblivion has a very surreal storyline and the animation was meant to match the style of the story. I have to agree that is better to watch it in one sitting. If you don't watch it at once you just don't get all that it offers. |
But it's a TV series. If you can't watch it in pieces then it's not a very well done product, don't you think? Considering shows like this air weekly, and if this show hasn't done anything good for you within eight epsodes (which is eight weeks worth of broadcast), then it's not a very good show. |
I lump MoO with Kiddy Grade in the "Shows that reward you for sticking with them." catagory. Hell Kiddy Grade takes 12, Melody takes 14.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:52 am
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Advent_Nebula wrote: |
Steventheeunuch wrote: |
Verdoozle wrote: | I don't see the animation as being sloppy necessarily. Like I said when the review a the first DVD came out, The melody of Oblivion has a very surreal storyline and the animation was meant to match the style of the story. I have to agree that is better to watch it in one sitting. If you don't watch it at once you just don't get all that it offers. |
But it's a TV series. If you can't watch it in pieces then it's not a very well done product, don't you think? Considering shows like this air weekly, and if this show hasn't done anything good for you within eight epsodes (which is eight weeks worth of broadcast), then it's not a very good show. |
I lump MoO with Kiddy Grade in the "Shows that reward you for sticking with them." catagory. Hell Kiddy Grade takes 12, Melody takes 14. |
So if the first 14 episodes aren't very good, then why give them a good review?
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one3rd
Joined: 28 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:46 am
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Advent_Nebula wrote: | I will say this once more, Melody of Oblivion is best watched in one setting, all 24 episodes. |
That doesn't seem healthy to me. I think one would be pretty messed up after 10 straight hours of that. In any case, I disagree with the reviewer's opinion too, but it's just that. An opinion. What some reviewer thinks isn't going to affect whether I like it or not.
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Joe Mello
Joined: 31 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:47 am
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You really shouldn't watch MoO if you want awesome storytelling. I'm sure I've said this before, but the pacing turns into an Endless Waltz (gigglesnort). However, if you want campy amusement laden with innuendo, then this show is for you.
Viva! Monster Union!
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Verdoozle
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:11 pm
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Steventheeunuch wrote: | But it's a TV series. If you can't watch it in pieces then it's not a very well done product, don't you think? Considering shows like this air weekly, and if this show hasn't done anything good for you within eight epsodes (which is eight weeks worth of broadcast), then it's not a very good show. |
I see what you are saying and it is well put. But that is not how I watched it. I was waiting for fansubs and the group I was getting it came out with a huge clump of episodes when the last episode aired so I was able to watch it all pretty much at once. There is also a personal preference and you simply just might not like the series. Not everybody likes every series.
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Nagisa
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:07 pm
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Advent_Nebula wrote: | I will say this once more, Melody of Oblivion is best watched in one setting, all 24 episodes. |
Doesn't change the fact that the review is meant to pertain to one volume and one volume alone. It could be the best show in the world, but if volume 3 has three crappy filler episodes, volume 3 gets a bad review because those episodes—regardless of the series' overall quality—are crap.
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cubs2084
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:52 am
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Nagisa wrote: |
Advent_Nebula wrote: | I will say this once more, Melody of Oblivion is best watched in one setting, all 24 episodes. |
Doesn't change the fact that the review is meant to pertain to one volume and one volume alone. It could be the best show in the world, but if volume 3 has three crappy filler episodes, volume 3 gets a bad review because those episodes—regardless of the series' overall quality—are crap. |
He didn't sound to be critcizing it based purely on what this DVD had to offer, though. He was criticising assorted aspects of the series on the whole. Why'd you have this guy review it instead of the guy who reviewed the first DVD?
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Zac
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:08 pm
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cubs2084 wrote: |
He didn't sound to be critcizing it based purely on what this DVD had to offer, though. He was criticising assorted aspects of the series on the whole. Why'd you have this guy review it instead of the guy who reviewed the first DVD? |
Because we don't want the same perspective on every DVD. Theron was criticising the series up to that point, not as a whole, which is part of a single-DVD review, unless you're only reviewing the first volume.
Just because you disagree with the review does not mean that the reviewer is totally wrong or biased or there's something wrong with our methods. All it means is that you disagree with the review.
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hikaru004
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:10 pm
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So true.
You also got to admit that those warrior attack activation scenes are repeated over and over and over.........
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darkchibi07
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:48 am
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I'm waiting until the reviewers get to the volume where Koko and Bocca are hiding together in a crate of apples and Bio Concerto.
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CorneredAngel
Joined: 17 Jun 2002
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:45 pm
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Zac wrote: |
Because we don't want the same perspective on every DVD. Theron was criticising the series up to that point, not as a whole, which is part of a single-DVD review, unless you're only reviewing the first volume.
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The problem I've always seen with a review of this kind is that that it looks at anime as if every episode (or every volume) is a stand-alone, and while it may be related to the volume that came before, there is no way to tell how it's related to the whole series. It's unfair to look at the beginning, or the middle, without knowing how it relates to the end. But on the other hand, well, if anime companies choose to release episodically titles that *are* by their nature complete stories told over thirteen or whatever hours, rather than putting them out as complete-series box sets, well, then there is no real way around this, not if we want to look at it from the point of the consumer.
Maybe the only fair way would be to actually have a separate review for each DVD of a series as a commercial product that may or may not be worth your money, and then another review/set of grades for the series as a whole.
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fargazer
Joined: 15 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:56 pm
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CorneredAngel wrote: | another review/set of grades for the series as a whole |
I really like that idea a lot; make it a "recap" review. Often newer series, after their initial individual releases, will then release a boxed set with all the DVDs; if so, a "recap" review would be perfect to associate with that release.
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