Forum - View topic[done] Rename person: IL WON (#18089)
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Devil Doll
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IL WON (with both parts apparently contributed as surname) has been created at ANN with a kanji given name of "元一".
His correct name is WON (surname) Il (given name), with kanji 元 (Uon, surname) 一 (Iru, given name). His hangul name is 원(Won)일(Il). Sources: http://www.maniadb.com/artist.asp?p=107491 http://www.koreapop.com/people.php?code=1563 http://wonpuri.seesaa.net/ (his Japanese blog where the ANN picture comes from) http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/원더풀_데이즈#.EC.9D.8C.EC.95.85 (korean Wikipedia page for "Sky Blue" (Wonderful Days) where he wrote the musical score for) Please hide the kanji give name for IL WON (so that both parts can then be set correctly). It would also be reasonable to rename the person if possible. (Or perhaps add a new person with his correct name and purge this one?) (Edit: Thread name adapted after kanji name removal.) Last edited by Devil Doll on Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:23 am; edited 2 times in total |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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I removed the incorrect kanji, but when I wanted to create a new entry for him the system denied my action: it told me "Won, Il" doesn't exist but ", IL WON" does. and did not allow me to override. Perhaps only Dan can fix it. 
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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It actually looks like both parts have been submitted as a given name, but in capital letters. I would have expected that sort of error to be a soft ("Did you mean..? Do you have that backwards?") error, not a brick wall. |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
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Fixed the name.
The system prevented dormcat from adding (Il)(Won) because fundamentally it's a duplicate of (Il Won)(). And I'm rather happy it did so, because purging & re-adding is not meant to be used for a simple formatting blunder like this; it's for cases where a mistake in the name changes the identity of the person, for example if the name was written "Il Wan" |
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Devil Doll
Posts: 656 Location: Germany |
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His blog http://wonpuri.seesaa.net/ has his name as ウォン (Won) イル (Il), so I set these as his kanji name, and changed the thread title to "[done]".
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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Since we have a fair number of Korean people in the database, would Hangul names be something worth capturing instead/as well as kanji names for those people?
I do really wish that instead of "purging" you could move a credit, which would then have an audit log attached explaining the move and bring up a message if someone tried to re-enter at the original location. |
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Devil Doll
Posts: 656 Location: Germany |
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Korean people in Japanese anime (low-level animators, mostly, but occasionally an episode director as well) will be credited in kanji.
Korean people in Korean anime (such as Wonderful Days in the case of this thread) will be credited in hangul. So since non-japanese anime are allowed at ANN, I wouldn't suggest to use the kanji field for hangul but rather enhance the data model. The question might then be whether there could be other notation systems as well in the future (Cyrillic?), in which case the additional fields (surname, given name) might be named "native notation". (Making it more difficult to implement a syntax check for valid input though, unless complemented by an additional drop-down list for "language of native notation".) By the way, WON IL already has his "hangul name" as "(Other information):", just not visible for anyone other than the contributor of this information. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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They are credited in either hanja, katakana, or romanized. Case by case. |
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Devil Doll
Posts: 656 Location: Germany |
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Of course your description is more precise than mine. What I intended to say is: They will be credited using a symbol set that's either the romanized name (i. e. the ANN "name") or something that would go into the kanji field in case of a Japanese person.
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