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Hummer2097
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I noticed ADV are now releasing box sets on fewer discs than the original multi-volume releases. What’s the difference between these and the original releases? Is it that extras are being cut out and the same episode encodings are used or are they re-authoring the episodes using more aggressive compression?
I’m not usually interested in extras so if it’s just the extras cut out I may as well go for the box set but if the episodes are heavily compressed I think I’ll stick to the original releases. Thanks for the advice. |
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Steventheeunuch
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The extras are being cut from these boxed set releases.
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Hummer2097
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Thanks for the information. I went and bought the Pretear box set to check the encoding. The episodes seem to be 0.99GB each on the 3 disc box set release. If anyone has the original 4 volume release of Pretear could you put it in and check how big the episodes are on the first disc?
If anyone has checked the episode size between any of the other releases I’d also be interested to hear if there was any difference. I’m not a huge fan of ADV (sloppy encoding, dreadful 5.1 mixes, abysmal scripts [dub and sub], and a history of other errors like overlays) but if it’s the same encodings with just the extras cut then I really couldn’t complain about such great value anime and I’ll definitely be buying a lot more. |
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Starwind Amada
Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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As for the boxsets, they've been doing great. Most of the time, the extras suck, anyway. All they ever have is the clean opening and closing and maybe some sketches of the characters, and maybe even some 2-minute interview with the Japanese producer who nobody really cares that much about. The only thing I look for in extras are the occasion dub VA interviews, but in the end, I'm buying the DVDs for the show, not the extras. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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What gets me is that they have to spend more money to remaster the DVD's in order to strip the extras - money they could pass off in savings to the consumer to begin with if they didn't bother. Let's face facts here - if I bought the original DVD's, I don't feel I'm getting punished because the DVD's are available later cheaper because 1) I got it right away, and 2) I got a shot at getting it with a nifty looking box. As a consumer and collector, I see that as just the cost of doing business.
So what if it's cheaper later? By the time that comes out, I'll have already seen it and bought it. |
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DarkTenshi90
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That's a good point. At first, I heard they were putting the extras on the Azumanga Daioh thin-pak, but learned that they took it out to make the people who bought the original boxset and DVDs not feel ripped off. I view it as that we got more stuff in the box with the first releases of the series that a lot of people may not have, y'know? But I am happy they're releasing cheaper sets. I may buy Abenobashi now 
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Steventheeunuch
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Sorry, but their record is somewhat against them. They aren't angels. |
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Starwind Amada
Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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How so? |
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Keonyn
 Subscriber Posts: 5567 Location: Coon Rapids, MN |
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There are far worse and the ones that are better aren't a ton better either. They're just the most apparent, and as with anything the most apparent is the one that gets the mud slung at it by the fanbases. Much like an up and coming band will be considered cool until they reach a level of popularity at which point they're not cool anymore despite the fact they haven't changed.
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Starwind Amada
Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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I still don't get this. Why are you guys complaining about the ADV boxsets? You're not even giving any reasons. Can't quite complain about stuff if you can't back it up. ADV is thinking about the fans by making their discs cheaper and easier to afford. If you want extras, buy the individual discs. Not everyone cares about character sketches and interviews with some Japanese storyboard artist. At least ADV is giving us boxsets, unlike Bandai, who continues to give us brick collections. Ugh. They do have the Vol. 1+box things, but they should do the same for a collection. |
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Steventheeunuch
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He's not complaining about the box sets, per se (I think?), moreso about their entire company. Reused voice actor stock, composite masters, interlaced encodings (of things which have a progressive release in Japan), the touted 5.1 mixed really aren't very good, low quality audio (128kbps vs higher audio used on Region 2 discs), subtitles with bad spelling/grammer, somewhat inconsistient releases of things (Saying you have all of Saint Seiya/Kaleido Star/Super Gals! dubbed or whatever and then only releasing half of it). I'm also finding it funny how the actual production staff for these things are known to you as "some Japanese storyboard artist". I mostly don't care about ADVs extras, but just because they decided to release some thinpaks because they were downscaling like mad doesn't mean they're always thinking of the fans, doesn't mean they're thinking for us and doesn't mean they're "OMG THE GREATEST! WORSHIPPP" |
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Starwind Amada
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IchigoK90
 Posts: 1634 Location: Scarborough, Ontario |
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Well if theres any other company that makes even worse dvd i'd say FUNimation. Damn they're cheap, only three episodes on a dvd that cost my friend $35 (canadian) and the extras were crap!
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Steventheeunuch
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So? It shouldn't be a rule that each show should sound the same as the next.
Quickly, so lets release substandard products because our fans are idiots that can't appreciate decent things?
The point I made above, and a bit more. You've never seen the actual bitrate of most of the audio tracks on these DVDs have you? You've also never heard any of them compared to other DVDs, have you? Just because you're not willing to pay for something of a higher quality doesn't mean everyone else shouldnt be. Once High-definition stuff becomes more mainstream/commonplace, you'll see the bullshit ADV have pulled on you.
"Oh bother!" If not, check out the Nadesico movie, which they had years to perfect, and yet the subtitle script is still fairly bad.
Bullshit. If ADV do not have an entire show, do not say you have an entire show, don't deceive your consumers.
Jeez, and this "OMG DONT HURT ADV LOOK AT MY AMAZING BOLD POWARRSS" isn't? Companies are not perfect. DVDs are not perfect. Stop having such a giant [expletive] fit whenever anyone talks ill of something and you can't tolerate it, especially when you only have "OMG NO NO ONE CARES ONLY GEEKS CARE SHUT UP" you condescening maggot. |
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Advent_Nebula
Posts: 932 Location: Colorado |
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FUNimantion no longer dose that. Look at Samurai 7 and Full Metal Alcimist. |
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