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Americanman
Joined: 16 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:08 pm
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I really like the Dragonball series and I'm not ready for it to end. Should Akira Toriama make new episodes featuring Goku Jr. or just stop?
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shadow_guyver
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:27 pm
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Okay, first off, Akira Toriyama didn't make DBGT. The manga stops at the end of DBZ.
Second, and this is just opinion, no I don't think there should be more made. I lost interest after DBZ finished, and even then it wasn't as good as it had once been.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:38 am
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I don't really think it's visable that new Dragonball Animation, more specifically a new series should be made, even though it's still popular. Popular series can still have new things made, even years after they've finished their initial run (Saint Seiya had a continuing OAV series and Movie, Fist of the North Star had the 3-part OAV and the new 3movies+2OAV series coming soon), but that's either due to their story being incomplete (Saint Seiya), or just as a compressed retelling to which they can resell the franchise. Dragonball would be better on the fist of the north star film route, because everything in the manga has already been covered.
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darkhunter
Joined: 13 May 2004
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:18 am
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You know how everyone is always badmouthing dragon ball z, the same anime that got them into the animefandom in the first place. I think it's because of all the newbie fans that got into anime during the late 90 or after, becaues db was made way back in the 80. Even though DB, DBZ, DBGT weren't the best anime out there, they're still my part of my childhood memories. I still enjoy dbz & db from time to time.
I would like to see more Dragon ball series that isn't 100+ episode. Maybe like 13 or 26 episode. With a good budget and the current animation technology, it could be something else.
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Nagisa
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:56 am
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I don't think there should be more Dragon Ball animation because of a certain, distinct trend:
-Dragon Ball & the Saiya-Jin Arc of DBZ were actually quite good. I admit I still enjoy them, even if I have sort of "grown out" of DB as it were.
-Dragon Ball Z's Freezer & Cell Arcs were still good, but not quite up to par with the previous two examples.
-Dragon Ball Z's Buu Arc was...eh. Decent in parts (Goku's fight with Majin Vegeta still strikes me as one of the better fights in the entire franchise), but not quite all there, y'know?
-Dragon Ball GT is the floater left in the toilet that didn't quite flush.
From great, to good, to so-so, to godawful. From oldest to newest. I actually dread to think just how bad any new DB would actually be based on this pattern.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:56 am
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darkhunter wrote: | You know how everyone is always badmouthing dragon ball z, the same anime that got them into the animefandom in the first place. I think it's because of all the newbie fans that got into anime during the late 90 or after, becaues db was made way back in the 80. Even though DB, DBZ, DBGT weren't the best anime out there, they're still my part of my childhood memories. I still enjoy dbz & db from time to time. |
Yeah, thanks for that bit of irrelevant past-jerking, I'm sure we'll take those words to the grave.
Quote: | I would like to see more Dragon ball series that isn't 100+ episode. Maybe like 13 or 26 episode. With a good budget and the current animation technology, it could be something else. |
Dragonball doesn't work in 13-26 episodes considering the massive ammount of material from the Manga. You couldn't make any new stories because just about everything has been covered, and the entire thing is finished. Honestly, where could you take it that isn't entirely lame?
Recap movies aren't so bad, like Path to Power, but I doubt that'll be considered for the ENTIRE THING.
Just.. leave it alone.
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Aokage
Joined: 08 May 2005
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:17 am
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Being civil isn't something you are good at, is it steve? I guess a sardonic nature is just how get by. But this isn't my battle, so i'll leave well enough alone.
Anyways, Dragon Ball Z was the last true Dragon Ball saga. That manga and anime came to cease nearly a decade ago, in 1996. Akira Toriyama only supervised Dragon Ball GT. A completly different studio handeled Dragon Ball GT, where as Toriyama's own Bird Studio, had handeled Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
With that said, the series still has quite a lot of "life" coming to it, as long as funimation is smart about things. In total there are 13 well known Dragon Ball Z movies, plus one "hidden/lost" movie bringing the total up to 14 full length feature films. Right now, America has only seen 8 of these. Tree of Might, Garlic Jr, Deadzone, Cooler, Return of Cooler, Lord Slug, Broli the Legendary Super Saiyan and Bojack. That leaves 6 more movies to be released at Funimation's discretion, including another movie featuring Broli, as well as a movie featuring a Goku and Vegeta fusion via the "fusion dance" (Gogeta, as opposed to Vegetto). Though I would be supportive of an effort to publish the remaining 6 movies, I must say that I am against them trying to create yet another series. I think two decades of Dragon Ball is enough.
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NinjaGunslinger55
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:58 pm
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I loved DB and DBZ, but Gt was crap since Toriyama-sensei didn't make it.
Hopefully there won't be another arc.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:44 pm
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Aokage wrote: | Being civil isn't something you are good at, is it steve? I guess a sardonic nature is just how get by. But this isn't my battle, so i'll leave well enough alone.
Anyways, Dragon Ball Z was the last true Dragon Ball saga. That manga and anime came to cease nearly a decade ago, in 1996. Akira Toriyama only supervised Dragon Ball GT. A completly different studio handeled Dragon Ball GT, where as Toriyama's own Bird Studio, had handeled Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
With that said, the series still has quite a lot of "life" coming to it, as long as funimation is smart about things. In total there are 13 well known Dragon Ball Z movies, plus one "hidden/lost" movie bringing the total up to 14 full length feature films. Right now, America has only seen 8 of these. Tree of Might, Garlic Jr, Deadzone, Cooler, Return of Cooler, Lord Slug, Broli the Legendary Super Saiyan and Bojack. That leaves 6 more movies to be released at Funimation's discretion, including another movie featuring Broli, as well as a movie featuring a Goku and Vegeta fusion via the "fusion dance" (Gogeta, as opposed to Vegetto). Though I would be supportive of an effort to publish the remaining 6 movies, I must say that I am against them trying to create yet another series. I think two decades of Dragon Ball is enough. |
Toriyama never actually supervised GT, infact, he really had no part in any of the creative process. The "lost movie" is actually Playdia Game footage, which was released later onto two VHS tapes in order to gain extra profit.
Also, movie 10 has been released, with movie 11 being released in August. There's still two more Dragonball films, and two Dragonball Z ones, which I imagine will come out in 2006. Highly doubtful the Game footage will come out though, because it's really not that good. Also, 45 minutes isn't feature length, and the longest film by far is movie 8, which runs for 70 minutes. The rest run on an average of 40-55 minutes.
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darkhunter
Joined: 13 May 2004
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:16 pm
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Steventheeunuch wrote: |
Dragonball doesn't work in 13-26 episodes considering the massive ammount of material from the Manga. You couldn't make any new stories because just about everything has been covered, and the entire thing is finished. Honestly, where could you take it that isn't entirely lame?
Just.. leave it alone. |
I was talking about an original story, not something from the manga.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:19 pm
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darkhunter wrote: |
I was talking about an original story, not something from the manga. |
That wouldnt work, since everything has already been covered.
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dgreater1
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:39 pm
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Well if you want continuation... just imagine Gokou fighting the God of All Gods, the Beginning of All... or something like that... I can't think of anyone stronger than Gokou anymore or just imagine someone stronger than Goujita Level 4, Vekou (Vejita/Gokou) Level 4, or make them weak again, but then again... they'll become powerful coz they're Sanjiyans... I mean Saiyans
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Aokage
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:46 pm
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After some quick research, I discovered that you are correct steve. The lost movie was indeed just footage from the old Bandai Playdia. It did receive a VHS release in Japan, as a movie, but it isn't technically an OVA. So, I guess that one is out, but the rest still stands mostly true, as far as funimations publishing options for more DBZ related material.
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Ataru
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:25 pm
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dgreater1 wrote: | just imagine Gokou fighting the God of All Gods, the Beginning of All... or something like that... I can't think of anyone stronger than Gokou anymore  or just imagine someone stronger than Goujita Level 4, Vekou (Vejita/Gokou) Level 4, or make them weak again, but then again... they'll become powerful coz they're Sanjiyans... I mean Saiyans |
Wasn't that one of the plot points from Dragonball GT? I got lost during the Baby Saga.
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Kruszer
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:34 am
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No use kicking a dead horse. I don't think the audience is there anymore judging by how many people hate it now, and DB is old news in Japan as well. The chances are minimal. I liked DB and most of DBZ, but GT was just crappy without Toriyama. I've since found lots of series that are just way better though.
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