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enurtsol
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 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:47 am
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Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. They don't sue you - they turn you into a prison bitch. 
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Megiddo
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:50 am
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| enurtsol wrote: | Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. |
Do you ever read the articles?
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:52 am
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: | Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. |
Do you ever read the articles? |
It's a 1-yr prison crime, suspended for 3 years. It's still a 1-yr prison crime worth if he violates his suspension. What's so complicated?
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Megiddo
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:53 am
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He doesn't go to prison if he doesn't repeat the offense in 3 years.
So... zero year prison crime. Unless you want to say "repeated copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan"
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:01 am
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| Megiddo wrote: | | He doesn't go to prison if he doesn't repeat the offense in 3 years.
So... zero year prison crime. Unless you want to say "repeated copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan" |
I didn't say he's going to prison.......... yet. OK, ya got a point about the "repeated" part. Though the prosecution actually thought that's what the violation is worth, but the judge showed a bit leniency.
(I know what a suspended sentence is. Heck, we make fun of Japan here for having so many suspended sentences, even for serious crimes. A common joke is: kill a man in Japan, you get life - suspended.)
But a suspension still does not change what the crime is worth. First of all, in Japan it's a crime, not a civil case. And it's worth a whole year in prison. For a copyright violation or two. And here, Funimation is just suing for money - they're getting gypped.
(FWIW, I believe Japan is wrong in this.)
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Gasero
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:01 am
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| Megiddo wrote: | | He doesn't go to prison if he doesn't repeat the offense in 3 years.
So... zero year prison crime. Unless you want to say "repeated copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan" |
Based on what the article says he would get the prison sentence if he is convicted of ANY crime within 3 years, not just another copyright violation.
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AnimeDuelist15
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:19 am
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The guys name is Igarashi. Maybe going to Prison. Ganta Igarashi and some of that Deadman Wonderland anyone???????
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nhat
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:35 am
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| enurtsol wrote: |
| Megiddo wrote: | | He doesn't go to prison if he doesn't repeat the offense in 3 years.
So... zero year prison crime. Unless you want to say "repeated copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan" |
I didn't say he's going to prison.......... yet. OK, ya got a point about the "repeated" part. Though the prosecution actually thought that's what the violation is worth, but the judge showed a bit leniency.
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You said that he is going to prison for a year in your first post.... and the fact that you had to ask what's so complicated about the sentence shows you really didn't understand what it means.
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Kikaioh
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:40 am
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I hope the uploader's learned his lesson. It would have been awesome if he'd been sentenced to a year of working part-time as an assistant at Sunrise ~ then maybe he'd have a better appreciation for the sheer amount of effort and skill it takes to actually make the kind of works he was so breezily distributing for free. 
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cleverasinine
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:40 am
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| Kikaioh wrote: | I hope the uploader's learned his lesson. It would have been awesome if he'd been sentenced to a year of working part-time as an assistant at Sunrise ~ then maybe he'd have a better appreciation for the sheer amount of effort and skill it takes to actually make the kind of works he was so breezily distributing for free. |
Man who uploads anime gets caught and sentenced to 1 year of working for the same company that he ripped off.......make a manga about it and I'd buy it 
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Dimlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:59 pm
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| enurtsol wrote: | Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. They don't sue you - they turn you into a prison bitch. |
One year of prison time is probably preferable to being sued for tens of thousands of dollars, as the RIAA, MPAA and other organizations would do. A suspended sentence is a much better way of going about this than ruining someone financially over downloading one song, for example.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:16 pm
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| nhat wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: |
| Megiddo wrote: | | He doesn't go to prison if he doesn't repeat the offense in 3 years.
So... zero year prison crime. Unless you want to say "repeated copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan" |
I didn't say he's going to prison.......... yet. OK, ya got a point about the "repeated" part. Though the prosecution actually thought that's what the violation is worth, but the judge showed a bit leniency.
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You said that he is going to prison for a year in your first post.... and the fact that you had to ask what's so complicated about the sentence shows you really didn't understand what it means. |
Um...... no. I said, "Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. They don't sue you - they turn you into a prison bitch." I'm making a statement on how ridiculous that is. And when I asked, "What's so complicated?" - that was a rhetorical question.
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| enurtsol wrote: | Copyright violation is a 1-yr prison crime in Japan. They don't sue you - they turn you into a prison bitch. |
One year of prison time is probably preferable to being sued for tens of thousands of dollars, as the RIAA, MPAA and other organizations would do. A suspended sentence is a much better way of going about this than ruining someone financially over downloading one song, for example. |
Yeah, a suspended sentence is a bit of leniency, but it still goes on your criminal record that you've been convicted of a crime that is worth a 1-yr prison sentence. It'll show up when you apply for a job or for a loan, etc. You're still treated as a convicted criminal. That's ridiculous.
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bglassbrook
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:45 pm
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| enurtsol wrote: | | You're still treated as a convicted criminal. That's ridiculous. |
He broke the law (twice, because simply having it deleted the first time wasn't good enough) and was convicted. How else should he be treated?
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:52 pm
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| bglassbrook wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: | | You're still treated as a convicted criminal. That's ridiculous. |
He broke the law (twice, because simply having it deleted the first time wasn't good enough) and was convicted. How else should he be treated? |
It should be treated as a civil case, not in criminal court. No criminal records.
When you are caught speeding or not signalling when changing lanes, you broke the law too, but you are not a criminal. Not all broken laws necessarily mean it's a crime.
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greensoulreaper
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:23 pm
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People shouldn't go to prison for petty crimes like uploading copyrighted videos. Why not just make them pay a fine and get on with it? Save prison space for those criminals that really do need to stay locked up. Saves money yeah?
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