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jubei_ryujoji
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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Location: malaysia
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:20 pm
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hi.....
a lot of things been bugging me lately...
a lot of vcds in my country are unlicensed....(dvds too!)
even naruto, and all those animes that are selling like hot cakes... i have yet to see any responsible authority person to take care of the piracy thats been going on all along here...
malaysia, well known for piracy is resorting to own dubbed versions and selling them!
does your place do the same?
how can i get the authorities to catch them?
even the mangas sold here are mostly unlicensed, and i do really hope someone could help me!
i hate seeing people earn money by cheating the folks of malaysia and of foreign visitors....
do u have any opinions? if u do, please give one, and it's actually quite important as the developer of the anime or manga is not giving his anime or manga out for free, it's all hard work and they have to at least earn from it!
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:54 pm
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jubei_ryujoji wrote: | hi.....
a lot of things been bugging me lately...
a lot of vcds in my country are unlicensed....(dvds too!)
even naruto, and all those animes that are selling like hot cakes... i have yet to see any responsible authority person to take care of the piracy thats been going on all along here...
malaysia, well known for piracy is resorting to own dubbed versions and selling them!
does your place do the same?
how can i get the authorities to catch them?
even the mangas sold here are mostly unlicensed, and i do really hope someone could help me!
i hate seeing people earn money by cheating the folks of malaysia and of foreign visitors....
do u have any opinions? if u do, please give one, and it's actually quite important as the developer of the anime or manga is not giving his anime or manga out for free, it's all hard work and they have to at least earn from it! |
If by this point the Malaysian Govt. haven't done anything about it, or the Japanese licensors issued some kind of legal thread against people who do pirate their works, it's safe to say that you're not going to convince them to change their stance anytime soon. Perhaps if Japanese companies were to actually release better products into Malaysia, and faster, then perhaps you wouldn't have such a problem? I dunno how the lw works there.
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Dagwood
Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:38 pm
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The FCC doesn't do much about it in America either, "they have bigger fish to fry" as I heard someone put it once before. Piracy is a problem no matter were you are. It's horridly sad.
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Sword of Whedon
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:03 pm
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The FCC has nothing to do with it whatsoever. They regulate broadcasts. Copyrights are enforced either by the company that owns it or the representative company like the MPAA, and the actual law enforcement arm is the FBI.
Your best bet is contacting the Malaysian office of the MPAA, RIAA, JASRAC or Interpol.
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Dagwood
Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:14 pm
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Edit: it posted me twice.
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Dagwood
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:15 pm
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Oh yeah, brain fart, your right. Either way they don't do much about it.
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slickwataris
Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:51 pm
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You wouldn't be a country if you didn't have piracy problems.
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jubei_ryujoji
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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Location: malaysia
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:59 am
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so is piracy common where you stay?
ok, so is piracy a good or a bad thing?
don't u get mad at these people who make profit through stealing copyrights?
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darkhunter
Joined: 13 May 2004
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Location: Los Angelas
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:01 am
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jubei_ryujoji wrote: | so is piracy common where you stay?
ok, so is piracy a good or a bad thing?
don't u get mad at these people who make profit through stealing copyrights? |
Piracy is bad. The money made can be use for other illegals activites like drug trade or prositution. In the end, it's the bootleg that profit, not the people that create the show.
So yes, for people who buy thier anime legally, it piss them off. But it's nothing we can do about it. Tons of bootleg are sold through ebay every day.
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Ken Hayashi
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:36 am
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jubei_ryujoji wrote: | so is piracy common where you stay?
ok, so is piracy a good or a bad thing?
don't u get mad at these people who make profit through stealing copyrights? |
It's pretty common here in Singapore. The government (Board of Film Censors) reviews an anime and as long as it does not have objectionable content, they slap a sticker on it and O.K.s it for sale, regardless if it's bootleg or not. It's the content, not the source, that bothers them.
I've been harping about this for some time already, but the situation will not change. The anime market here is just too small for someone to actually go out and acquire the license to a series and start selling them at ridiculous prices (for example, ODEX sells their licensed stuff at about $60 for a complete series on VCD, a lot more if it's DVD, and they seldom come on the DVD format).
And since my one little voice can't change anything, I just live with it.
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MichiyoYoshiku
Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:59 am
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The Reason Bootlegs are sold in the US and nothing is done about it is because they are all legal in their country of Origin (hong Kong, Taiwan ect)
It is my understanding that Malaysia doesn't have strict piracy laws either.
So.....just deal with it.
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Sword of Whedon
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:16 pm
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Quote: | The Reason Bootlegs are sold in the US and nothing is done about it is because they are all legal in their country of Origin (hong Kong, Taiwan ect)
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Completely false
They are illegal in Taiwan and HK, as both are members of the Berne Convention. Even if they WERE legal there, they are still illegal here. The reason why nothing is done about it is because 99.9% of the enforcement officers have no idea how to spot them, or they do not have the legal right to enforce the law on them
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MichiyoYoshiku
Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:21 pm
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I'm pretty sure they're legal in taiwan.
making them in this country is illegal but selling them.....no problem at all.
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dormcat
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Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:01 pm
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MichiyoYoshiku wrote: | I'm pretty sure they're legal in taiwan. |
I wonder how much do you know about this country.
After joining WTO after Jan. 1, 2002, all intellectual properties of other WTO member countries are protected by Taiwanese law automatically under Berne Convention, thus making bootlegs illegal.
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cyrax777
Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:20 am
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the lack of enforment in the US is more due to lack of $$$ to go after it. Well that and bulk of all the piracy on the US side is online via downloading or buying bootlegs online. Yeah theres the occosinal HK dvds or Son May cds at the local comic book store. We just dont have the massive amount of pirate goods on the streets compared to Asia were its pretty open and blatant. But I think thats only becouse of the huge amount of legimate product compared to China or Malasia.
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