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1945113
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 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:04 pm
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...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released.
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Sewingrose
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:16 pm
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I wonder what 2011's will look like with Tokyopop and Borders going bye-bye. But at least it's leveling off, and the companies that are still around now will probably stay around.
I don't blame this on scanlations, they have been around for quite a while, I think it's just the recession that follows periods of growth. And eventually they might start to rise again.
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TitanXL
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:57 pm
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Considering it's hitting US comics too, I doubt it's scanlations. It's just the economy.
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ReaKon
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:23 pm
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The slowdown doesn't surprise me, but I was surprised to see how big the portion of North America comics that were manga sales.
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ArsenicSteel
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:27 pm
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ArsenicSteel
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:28 pm
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| 1945113 wrote: | | ...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released. |
So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now?
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1945113
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:40 pm
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| ArsenicSteel wrote: |
| 1945113 wrote: | | ...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released. |
So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
...pirating manga? I never said anything about that -_-... I said "read translated manga ONLINE" people can easily see the latest chapters of their favorite manga on sites like Mangafox or mangastream ( mangastream being they release chapters really early for only a few major manga series ) .
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Danette-Anime-Otaku
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:23 pm
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| TitanXL wrote: | | Considering it's hitting US comics too, I doubt it's scanlations. It's just the economy. |
Agreed. With this ecomony people just don't have as much money to spend in general. I myself am more money concious and don't spend as much on manga and anime like I used to =/
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voltaseca
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:54 pm
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| 1945113 wrote: |
| ArsenicSteel wrote: |
| 1945113 wrote: | | ...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released. |
So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
...pirating manga? I never said anything about that -_-... I said "read translated manga ONLINE" people can easily see the latest chapters of their favorite manga on sites like Mangafox or mangastream ( mangastream being they release chapters really early for only a few major manga series ) . |
Just registered an account to say that your post was the most stupid thing I've read this entire year. Thank you.
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MagicallyDelicious
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:55 pm
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| 1945113 wrote: |
| ArsenicSteel wrote: |
| 1945113 wrote: | | ...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released. |
So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
...pirating manga? I never said anything about that -_-... I said "read translated manga ONLINE" people can easily see the latest chapters of their favorite manga on sites like Mangafox or mangastream ( mangastream being they release chapters really early for only a few major manga series ) . |
Psst... that is pirating manga...
Anyways
My manga collection has like.. quadrupled over the last 3 years or so... I now own like 440 manga volumes from 70 different series, not including any light novels I've picked up. But I do get most of them off Amazon, despite having started out at Borders (I'll miss you, that's where I bought my first manga...)
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nhat
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:01 pm
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| ArsenicSteel wrote: |
| 1945113 wrote: | | ...Not really surprised since most people these days read translated manga online instead of waiting a couple of months for the english versions to be released. |
So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
Well if you read the article it have been dropping each year not just 1 year.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:19 pm
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| ArsenicSteel wrote: | | The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
I just want to point out that the above statement is really quite silly, because thanks to aggregation websites, the only way for the amount of manga available online to be constant would be that no new manga is scanlated at all. Which we all know is not happening. The amount of manga available (illegally) online grows with each new title or chapter that is scanlated.
With that said, the economy really sucks but I'm glad to hear the drop in sales was a bit less than they had predicted. I'm not a manga purchaser other than a few select titles (anything Urasawa and Cross Game currently), but I hope the market starts an uptick soon. Really interesting that such a new face like Yen Press was able to jump to #2 market share so fast. They definitely selected titles that were going to sell.
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einhorn303
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:20 pm
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Very disappointing news. Though all I can do is keep buying the stuff I love.
| TitanXL wrote: | | Considering it's hitting US comics too, I doubt it's scanlations. It's just the economy. |
But it's manga twice as much (7% vs 15%) compared to comics overall.
| ArsenicSteel wrote: | | ...So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
It could be a catalyst for the drop, even if the economy is the primary agent.
Though after reading:
| nhat wrote: | | Well if you read the article it have been dropping each year not just 1 year. |
If people use the "it's because of the econony, not piracy"...after the economic meltdown, the drop in sales has actually declined. Which suggests that it's definitely piracy.
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Happiness for Subaru
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:21 pm
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| nhat wrote: |
| ArsenicSteel wrote: | | So you are saying that people who were buying manga in North America are now pirating manga. What would cause that. The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
Well if you read the article it have been dropping each year not just 1 year. |
Oh misunderstandings...
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ArsenicSteel
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:42 pm
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| ArsenicSteel wrote: | | The amount of manga available online has been more or less constant for years, why a 15% drop is sales now? |
I just want to point out that the above statement is really quite silly, because thanks to aggregation websites, the only way for the amount of manga available online to be constant would be that no new manga is scanlated at all. Which we all know is not happening. The amount of manga available (illegally) online grows with each new title or chapter that is scanlated. |
Except that it is not purely additive. illegal scans get added and some scans get taken down or stop getting translated thus become harder to find just like how official releases constantly add new titles but eventually discontinue some titles making them harder to find.
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