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ACDragonMaster
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:39 pm
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As for FMA, I'd like to see some official word from Viz on that, rather than just a lot of hearsay...
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midori kou
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:51 pm
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Personally, I don't want to see Viz doing FMA. For a work published by Square Enix, I rather see a company like Del Rey Comics or CMX doing something this big.
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Patachu
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:07 pm
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Del Rey can't seem to get their standards straight on paper or print quality. The only thing they do right are the CLAMP books (and even then the blacks come out horrid -- see xxxHOLiC), Gundam Seed and Negima, but their newer releases are reproduced poorly ...
And CMX? Then the FMA release would be a joke. The dialogue would be decent, but the packaging and printing ... a joke.
Viz has its own faults for sure, like re-translating every single sound effect and having editors that make every character sound the same in the dialogue, but ... I'd rather them than the manga upstarts that only started publishing this year.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:36 pm
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I think Viz should finish up DBZ first, before releasing Dr. Slump. And try some more Toriyama one-shots as well. Because the people who like DBZ might not like Slump. OTOH, hopefully, this will lead to Go Go Ackman getting a release down the road.
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AstroNerdBoy
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:40 pm
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Viz getting this means I won't be buying it...not unless I see them show some respect. They won't do it because they are Japanese and no one ruins anime/manga like the Japanese (as the saying goes). On one hand, Viz's translation policies are strange because of the lack of respect to Japanese culture. On the other hand they aren't because their very old book of business says that American's won't accept X, Y, and Z in anime/manga so we must modify our product to gain more sales.
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Kagemusha
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:42 pm
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Hopefully they'll do a good job. When they want to they can provide some of the best translations out there. They usually do a better job than Tokyopop (though lately I'm not so sure). I'd have to agree with GATSU that it could be pretty tough selling Dr. Slump over here. Many people despised Sandland, and from what I've seen alot of people may write Slump off as being similar to Sandland.
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Amibite
Joined: 01 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:54 pm
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Viz is a great company, should translate everything fine and dandy. Their only flop recently was Yuugiou, but mainly because 4-Kids and Konami of America had them by the stones to change it. Conan was changed at the request of the mangaka.. so unless they get smacked around by outside forces, should be a good release.
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UberTai
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:59 pm
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I'm upset about Viz getting FMA. From what I've seen, FMA is a high quality release in Japan (high quality meaning paper, illustrations, etc), and as of late, Viz has been using terrible paper (looks yellow-ish), leading the artwork to look worse than it should. Also, I hate it when Viz translates sound effects by writing over the words. Not only does it look tacky, but Viz also tends to run into the actual artwork, cutting off some of the manga that we should be seeing.
No surprise from the HxH getting licensed by Viz. They'll probably serialize this in Shonen Jump.
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ACDragonMaster
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:00 pm
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I dunno... I've compared some of the dialogue between my Japanese Ruroken and my roommate's version as translated by Viz... it seems very hit and miss, with enough offensive misses that I'm sure not buying it. (I'm sorry, but clutz of a rurouni mode or not, Kenshin does *not* just say "nope"... -_-)
Of course, there are people who complain about almost every series they've done, but I *do* prefer to actually read the original Japanese (NOT scanslations) myself before reaching that conclusion, so I think overall "hit and miss" probably sums up their stuff pretty well.
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Necros Antiquor
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:10 pm
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It would be really nice to get Hunter x Hunter in Shonen Jump, but Viz has been making weird decisions lately (changing Zoro's name to Zolo, not doing as many color pages of manga that were already sparse (you can tell by the quality of the page when something was originally in color and its being printed in black-and-white), skipping ahead in Yu-Gi-Oh (effectively splitting the whole manga into 3 separate parts), going back on their word about faithfully translating Yu-Gi-Oh (and its important cards like Osiris, which is being called Slifer), and having fewer pages in recent issues). I'd bet they'd do something random like put Dr. Slump in the magazine (a title which I'm sorry to say will likely not sell based on its antiquity and weird plot), thereby plummeting sales.
Oh, and I'm for bringing over a couple more Toriyama one-shot mangas. Sandland interested me for the first couple of episodes, then got very boring. That Kajika story looks to have potential, though.
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Kagemusha
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:01 pm
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UberTai wrote: | I'm upset about Viz getting FMA. From what I've seen, FMA is a high quality release in Japan (high quality meaning paper, illustrations, etc), and as of late, Viz has been using terrible paper (looks yellow-ish), leading the artwork to look worse than it should. Also, I hate it when Viz translates sound effects by writing over the words. Not only does it look tacky, but Viz also tends to run into the actual artwork, cutting off some of the manga that we should be seeing.
No surprise from the HxH getting licensed by Viz. They'll probably serialize this in Shonen Jump. |
It pretty much is based on what line they put it in. Action/SJ/Shojo have all had pretty poor quality packages, while Editor's Choice usually gets exellent paper/cover quality (Maison Ikkoku second edition could be better). I doubt they will be in anything but action or SJ though.
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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:41 pm
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Wow, and here I thought I was the only one who thought Viz played favourites with their titles. They did a completely horrible job with Angel Sanctuary. However, some of their other releases ARE good in quality, and I think with something as big as FMA, they'll give it the respect it deserves. If not, they're a company of idiots.
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ACDragonMaster
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:24 pm
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Well, I dunno about anyone else, but I just sent a message along to Viz inquiring as to the accuracy of that article. If I get a reply from them I'll be sure to post or something... >_>
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Kagemusha
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:05 pm
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littlegreenwolf wrote: | Wow, and here I thought I was the only one who thought Viz played favourites with their titles. They did a completely horrible job with Angel Sanctuary. However, some of their other releases ARE good in quality, and I think with something as big as FMA, they'll give it the respect it deserves. If not, they're a company of idiots. |
They really don't make alot of sense with how they handle things. For big titles like the SJ or shojo ones (that they usually promote) they often do a shoddy job, but for Editors Choice (especially Vagabond, Phoenix or No. 5) which they rarely promote or release well, they often do a great job in terms of translation and packaging.
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jfrog
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:20 pm
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That's because it seems the people buying Shonen Jump and shojo titles are generally teenagers (less money to spend on comics), and don't care about packaging. Things like Phoenix and No 5 have some crossover appeal to the American comic audience, who are generally older (and have real jobs, so more money to spend*) and care more about packaging. Which can be taken to an extreme, of course - Cages is great and all, but I wish I could afford to buy a copy. And how many different editions of The Dark Knight Returns do we really need?
*Note that I am not referring to the comic book fans who have worked retail their whole life and live with their parents. But they only read X-Men spinoffs, anyways.
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