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darkhunter
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So what does everyone think of Viz current and future released?
The one of the two giants of the manga community. They have a wide range of manga that's diverse. If you want hip hop manga to yaoi manga, Korean manwha to Anime-cine, TP has a wide selection. Not many of thier new title get me excited, (except Boys Be), but Viz's newer title are more exciting (simply because they're more popular) TP's editing are usually well done, I haven't catch any major mistake so far (In which I was confuse). I however stress strong opinion towards the logo change for older series that had used the old logo. Who's choice was this? Everyone seem to hate it. Well at least they have a fair set price. Also TP wasn't all about manga in the early days. I remember them and visit thier website through a import-car link. I think they were some kind of car import site at first with cute car models. Other than manga, some of TP's live action movie are cool and thier import racing video are pretty cool. I'm still collecting many of thier series, but I somehow they're not as amazing as they once were. Now when I look at it, GTO and Priest are the only two current manga I wanna continue collecting for TB, while Viz's is like 8 title. Tokyopop however, have some of manga thas has a high profile anime counterpart: Samurai Deeper Kyo, Scryed, Cowboy Bebop, Fruit Basket, Chobits, Initial D & Saikyuki in which will get attention of many anime fans. They get a lot of attention from this. They also have a solid line of korean manwha. If anybody else want to express opinon on this company or talk about a particular title, than go ahead. 
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Kagemusha
 Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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While they don't have as many titles I like as other companys, Tokyopop has done a good job lately. Sometimes their translations are iffy, but they usually put the books together well. I haven't noticed too many errors in them recently either. Good website too. Some of their cine-mangas are stupid, but they don't force anyone to read them. They're the reason that manga has become as big as it is, so that's admirable (though some would argue about the long term effects of their "flooding" tactic, weither this is true remains to be seen).
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Haiseikoh 1973
 Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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Tokyopop seems to have made some strides in making thier Manga much more platable. With the diverse ammount of titles, I think they've improved.
However, their Anime Division has taken 5 steps BACKWARDS, and is a completely different topic altogether. |
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Glory Questor
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While I like their title selection, I didn't really like their advertising.
Basically, they hired someone who tried to make the manga title description dramatic and interesting, but all it ended up being was monotone and uninteresting. 
If I had never read a manga, Tokyopop's commercials wouldn't have influenced me to start. Otherwise, good titles and good translation. Plus, the adoption of Right-To-Left is just following the trend of other Japanese-translated work (i.e. Newtype USA). |
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xjadedragon750x
Posts: 263 Location: Chinatown |
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I rather like Tokyopop because of their regular releases and lot of titles. However, I always wonder---What titles did they have when they were still Comixx? (I think that's it...)
I have noticed a lot of errors in the recent books. Not A LOT, but more than usual. Since I don't read the Japanese ones, I don't know if it really is an error or not. I think of it as an error only if it really doesn't make sense.
I though so too. In one of the Rebound volumes, the summary on the back indicated some basketball games in the volume, but it turned out to be about one guy and his past entirely. 
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XCTU
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yea i noticed that the descriptions on the back actually turn me off from buying some of them cause they make it sound like something that i dont really care to read when in actuality i end up enjoying it a lot...
but yeah, i <3 TP manga, most of my manga is TP, i think they've done a great job with it. |
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alice20th
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You realize that statement was completely wrong, don't you? Newtype USA was first published after Tokyopop changed their line to right-to-left. It's true that Viz had taken a few toe-in-the-water attempts at right-to-left (Dragon Ball & Evangelion) before Tokyopop did it, but when TP did it, they committed their entire line to the right-to-left and under $10 price point. A bold move that paid off for them in that they were able to dominate the market for an entire year before the other companies caught up. That's not to say that TP hasn't had some pretty big duds. The reformats of their magazines were pretty disastrous. I still think their handling of sound effects (not translating them in any way) is a ripoff. And some of their translations have been criminal. Overall, they and Viz are the industry leaders and set the standards by which other manga is judged. They've taken some risks that I appreciate (like Lupin III and Happy Mania) and have a number of ride-the-wave licensed titles that I won't touch if you pay me (like the Cowboy Bebop manga). I guess like all companies, the quality coming out of any particular manga is a reflection of the quality that went into it. A20 |
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OTP
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Well, between the two, I'd say Tokyopop is definitley dominating the manga genre here in the US. Every store I go to that sells manga has shelves and shelves full of Tokyopop manga, and then a few Viz titles. Whenever I see people reading manga, it's usually by Tokyopop, not Viz. I think Tokyopop's "success" is because they have so many titles (although some people see that as a bad thing), so you have more variety.
Really? I actually like that they don't translate the sound effects (for some reason, it's be too '50s DC for me [you know, the old Batman stuff). Besides, some of their titles do have translations, like Saiyuki. |
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alice20th
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Yes, they have more titles, but the top-ten lists are no longer dominated by Tokyopop (as they were in 2002). Nowadays manga from TP, Dark Horse, ADV, Viz or Del Rey can take the top spot on any given week.
Obviously this is a matter of personal taste, but I see the sound effects as a part of the text of the manga -- part of the story, and should be translated in some way. A glossary (as in Nausicaa) is an imperfect compromise, but a reader can always ignore the glossary if that reader likes it without a translation. But if a sound effect is crucial to the meaning of the story, then the reader has the recourse of looking in the back to see what it meant in a manga with a glossary. Many of TP's titles don't even provide that. Personally I prefer Del Rey's subtitle solution. In any case, no matter how any of us feel is the best way to handle it, the treatment of sound effects doesn't seem to have any effect on sales, and I'm sure each company will continue to follow whatever philosophy they like. I didn't mean to imply that all TP titles handled their sound effects in the same way, but enough TP titles don't translate their effects that I assume any new TP title I buy will have no translated effects until it is (happily) proven otherwise. (The same with DC's CMX line.) A20 |
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XCTU
Posts: 76 Location: Osaka |
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are you talking about the sounds like "KU-" when someone hits someone else, or like, when someone says something, and as an american audience we're not supposed to get it? If its the latter, then yea, del ray does an excellent job of that telling us why its in there and what it's referring to. If its the former, then its not really necessary to replace the characters with letters that say the same thing. The characters, unlike the text boxes, are part of the drawing itself and can't really be erased. besides, if its an important one like a character screaming, i think they put "AAAAAHH" in there next to the characters. Other than that, you can assume they're sound effects from the battle and are essentially meaningless to the plot of the story as to which sound it is.
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kaitoueesu
 Posts: 116 Location: Findlay |
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Tokyopop is growing more and more everyday. I think that is one of the reasons why everyone likes Tokyopop. They have a wide selection of manga and no one can beat them.
Many people like Tokyopop because they have almost all the CLAMP manga. Tokyopop is really good at translating the manga too. I know that should be obvious but some companies translate their manga weird and sometimes change the story. |
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OTP
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Not hardly. Just go to an Initial D forum; almost every post is by a zealot saying he/she hates Tokyopop just because of the Tricked Out version of the show (I bet half of those people haven't even seen anything else by them). But other than that, yeah, Tokyopop has some great manga titles. |
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aoie_emesai
 Posts: 52 Location: Necessary? |
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Being big as you know, this doesn't mean jack; "bigger isn't always better". They have quite a selection, which i haven't read more then 20% of their books, and scanned thru around 60% of the rest and done some research on them.
I am rather picky about my mangas, so of their selections, I dont like more then 15% of mangas. So far i would say Del Ray has done a good job on their manga section, i like 75% of their manga, which i exclude Gundam Seed out of. ( i know they only have 4 out so far) Boring story line and lets say "unattractive" drawings, keep me to say "good but not good enough" -7 out of 10 (average) |
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Kagemusha
Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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While they have improved of late, translation is still a weak point of Tokyopop. I guess its unavoidable since they have such a large amount of titles, but I can't stand how some of their things are written. As for the translated sound effects debate, it's really not a huge deal, but I prefer them translated. I really don't understand why people claim translating them "taints" or Americanizes the manga; after all, the sound effects are there for a reason, to enhance the manga. |
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Haiseikoh 1973
Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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And you don't find it odd that Tokyopop brought over Initial D due to a certain movie called "The Fast and the Furious?" And yes, i've seen most of Tokyopop's Anime (with exception to the Girl Stuff.) The Tricked Out Version was complete shyte (Thank god they didn't go the Rave Master Route and put the original Japanese Track to save some face) and the rest.....I only found Real Bout High School passable. |
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