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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:11 pm Reply with quote
Akira TAKEUCHI has no less than 17 staff entries, most of them for Animation Director, one of them being Magic Knight Rayearth.
His name in Kanji is given as 武内 (Takeuchi) 啓 (Akira), but no source is provided for this information, and there's no Japanese Wikipedia page for this name (but a page for 武内啓 at Allcinema).

Now I happened to stumble over a person named 竹内 (Takeuchi) 昭 (Akira), born 1961-07-01. This person has a Japanese Wikipedia page for 竹内昭 where he is credited for about 20 animes as animator, but only Magic Knight Rayearth from the ones already known to ANN (so this assignment may actually be wrong in ANN).
Wikipedia wrote:
ちなみに、同名で武内啓（武内あきら）というアニメーターがいる。
If I got that right then the Wikipedia page explicitly says this is not the same person as 武内啓, they just both happen to be animators.

How do I enter data for this person? I can't enter "Akira TAKEUCHI" (because that would refer to 武内啓), and I can't enter "竹内昭" either (because there's no person that I could assign these Kanji to).
I could of course invent a name such as "Akira TAKEUCHI (2)" or whatnot, but I guess I'd better ask before doing anything like that...
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:07 pm Reply with quote
We can split this person into 2, but before that we should establish which roles belong together. Using the pages you gave I could only confirm the following:
武内(1986) Uchuusen Sagittarius (TV) : Animation director
武内(1991) Matchless Raijin-Oh (TV) : Character Design
竹内(1994) Magic Knight Rayearth (TV) : Animation director (eps 3, 8)
武内(2008) Naisho no Tsubomi (OAV) : Character Design, Chief Animation Director

Which leaves 13 uncertain credits:
(1990) Karakuri Kengo Den Musashi Lord (TV) : Animation director
(1991) Madara (OAV) : Principal Drawing
(1993) Moldiver (OAV) : Key Animation
(1994) Wild 7 (OAV) : Character Design
(1995) Azuki-chan (TV) : Animation Supervisor
(1995) Magical Girl Pretty Sammy (OAV) : Key Animation (1,2)
(1998) Super Doll Licca-chan (TV) : Animation director (ep 6)
(2002) Princess Tutu (TV) : Animation director (7)
(2006) Ouran High School Host Club (TV) : 2nd Key Animation, Key Animation
(2007) Naruto Shippūden (TV) : Animation director
(2007) Bakugan Battle Brawlers (TV) : Animation director (eps 5,12)
(2007) Minami-ke (TV) : Animation director (ep 11)
(2008) Soul Eater (TV) : Key Animation (ep 6,11,16)

Also we need to come up with a way to differentiate the names. Usually it's easy because the two persons have different jobs, like Atsuko Tanaka (seiyuu) and Atsuko Tanaka (animator). But in this case they are both animators and have worked during the same period, so it's a little trickier. Akira Takeuchi (武内) and Akira Takeuchi (竹内) would be the obvious choice but this would be very opaque to the many non-Japanese readers on the site.
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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:31 pm Reply with quote
I'm fine with whatever name you suggest, especially with the version that includes the Kanji (and might at least make aware people who try to add data for one of them that's a tricky thing to do, as the Roumaji name from an English source alone will not suffice; mere users can always just click on that name to get a list of credits for that person without caring too much about the exact spelling of the name, that's what the splitting of the person will give them anyway).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:09 am Reply with quote
Great work! This leaves 3 titles unaccounted for:

(1991) Madara (OAV) : Principal Drawing
(1995) Magical Girl Pretty Sammy (OAV) : Key Animation (1,2)
(2006) Ouran High School Host Club (TV) : 2nd Key Animation, Key Animation

any takers?
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黒鍵



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:17 pm Reply with quote
By pure coincidence I arrived at this thread with the same problem as Devil Doll.

This page states 竹内昭 as one of the Key Animators for Magical Girl Pretty Sammy.

This page states 竹内旭 (Asahi Takeuchi) as both a Key Animator and 2nd Key Animator for Ouran High School Host Club. I couldn't find 竹内昭 or 竹内啓 on the same page so there is a possibility that the contributor has made a mistake there.

Can't help with the one for Madara.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:36 am Reply with quote
A bunch of credits have been added to Akira Takeuchi since the last time (and some deleted!) I think I managed to clarify which credits belongs to which Akira Takeuchi in the table below, but a few things still need to be resolved.
- 武内あきら credit for Azuki-chan; I'll assume that's 武内啓
- a bunch of credits for 竹内旭; shouldn't that be Asahi Takeuchi?
- 武内昭 for Agent Aika; did they mean 武内啓 or 竹内昭 or a different person?
- can't confirm Variable Geo

year anime task(s) kanji_ source
(1986) Uchūsen Sagittarius (TV) Animation Director 武内啓 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=89237
(1989) Project A-Ko 4: Final (OAV) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/プロジェクトA子%20完結篇
(1990) AD Police Files (OAV) Key Animation (ep 1) 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(1990) Karakuri Kengo Den Musashi Lord (TV) Animation Director 武内啓 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/からくり剣豪伝ムサシロード
(1991) Madara (OAV) Principal Drawing 竹内昭 http://yaplog.jp/lucyman/archive/1481
(1991) Matchless Raijin-Oh (TV) Character Design 武内啓 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=89105
(1992) Ushio & Tora (OAV) Key Animation (ep 7) 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/うしおととら
(1993) Moldiver (OAV) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://shirayuki.web.infoseek.co.jp/anime/Moldiver.html
(1994) Wild 7 (OAV) Character Design 竹内昭 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=238159
(1994) Magic Knight Rayearth (TV) Animation Director (eps 3, 8) 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(1995) Azuki-chan (TV) Animation Supervisor 武内あきら http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/あずきちゃん
(1995) Magical Girl Pretty Sammy (OAV) Key Animation (1,2) 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/魔法少女プリティサミー
(1996) Variable Geo (OAV) Key Animation
(1997) Agent Aika (OAV) Key Animation (ep 2) 武内昭 http://www1.vecceed.ne.jp/~m-satomi/aika.subtitle.html
(1998) Yu-Gi-Oh! (TV) Animation Director (ep 3) 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(1998) Cardcaptor Sakura (TV) Animation Director (ep 39) 武内啓 http://homepage2.nifty.com/KNIGHT/anime/data/SAKURA.html
(1998) Geobreeders (OAV) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://www1.vecceed.ne.jp/~m-satomi/giobreeders.html
(1998) Super Doll Licca-chan (TV) Animation Director (ep 6) 武内啓 http://homepage2.nifty.com/KNIGHT/anime/data/LICCA.html
(1999) Dangaizer 3 (OAV) Key Animation (ep 4) 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/超神姫ダンガイザー3
(1999) Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Spiral Labyrinth (OAV) Animation Director (5 episodes: eps 3, 7, 9, 13, 21) 武内啓 http://home-aki.cool.ne.jp/anime-list/spiral.htm
(2001) Pocket Monster Crystal: Raikou Ikazuchi no Densetsu (special) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(2002) Princess Tutu (TV) Animation Director (7) 武内啓 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/プリンセスチュチュ
(2006) Ouran High School Host Club (TV) 2nd Key Animation, Key Animation 竹内旭 http://www7.atwiki.jp/anime_wiki/pages/842.html
(2007) Murder Princess (OAV) Key Animation (6) 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(2007) Oh! Edo Rocket (TV) Animation Director (ep 6) 武内啓 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=327156#7
(2007) Bakugan Battle Brawlers (TV) Animation Director (eps 5, 12) 武内啓 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/爆丸バトルブローラーズ
(2007) Minami-ke (TV) Animation Director (ep 11) 武内啓 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/みなみけ
(2008) Soul Eater (TV) Key Animation (eps 6, 11, 16) 竹内旭 http://www1.vecceed.ne.jp/~m-satomi/souleater_sub1.html
(2008) Meitantei Conan Magic File 2 (OAV) Animation Director 竹内昭 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/竹内昭
(2008) Naisho no Tsubomi (OAV) Character Design, Chief Animation Director 武内啓 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=329769
(2008) Inazuma Eleven (TV) Animation Director (11 episodes: eps 30, 37, 53, 60, 64, 71, 74, 77, 82, 86, 90) 武内啓 http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=331850#7
(2009) Before Green Gables (TV) Key Animation (4 episodes: eps 10, 33-34, 39) 武内啓 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/こんにちは%20アン%20〜Before%20Green%20Gables
(2009) Shangri-La (TV) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/シャングリ・ラ
(2009) Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (TV) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/鋼の錬金術師%20FULLMETAL%20ALCHEMIST
(2009) Darker than Black: Ryūsei no Gemini (TV) Key Animation (ep 1) 竹内旭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/DARKER%20THAN%20BLACK%20-流星の双子-
(2010) Welcome to THE SPACE SHOW (movie) Key Animation 竹内旭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/宇宙ショーへようこそ
(2010) Bungaku Shōjo (movie) Key Animation 竹内旭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/劇場版“文学少女”
(2010) Pocket Monster Diamond & Pearl: Genei no Hasha Zoroark (movie) Key Animation 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/ポケットモンスターDP%20幻影の覇者%20ゾロアーク
(2010) Kuragehime (TV) Key Animation (6 episodes: eps 1-2, 4, 7, 9, 11) 竹内旭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/海月姫
(2010) Rita et Machin (TV) Key Animation (ep 2) 竹内旭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/リタとナントカ
(2011) Battle Girls - Time Paradox (TV) Key Animation (ep 1) 竹内昭 http://wiki.livedoor.jp/radioi_34/d/戦国乙女〜桃色パラドックス〜


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:44 am Reply with quote
oh btw I just added a convenient little bbcode to create the table above:
Code:
[table]
lines with tab-separated values
[/table]

very convenient when cut-and-pasting from a spreadsheet Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:09 am Reply with quote
Scouring YouTube, I managed to get some confirmation on Variable Geo with some Japanese ending credits for episode 2 (from some fansub seemingly). It's 竹内昭
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:30 am Reply with quote
Great! And the Soul Eater credits belong to 竹内旭, and Aika to 武内啓. So I've finally be able to perform the split
with animator 武内啓 at
person#5879
and animator 竹内旭 at
person#101176
and animator 竹内昭 at
person#101177

The differentiation is likely to be confusing to many people, but I don't see any way around that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:04 am Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
oh btw I just added a convenient little bbcode

Is there a page with a list of the phpBB BBCode tags? I don't see them in the FAQ. (VBulletin has a default page of .../misc.php?do=bbcode.)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:35 am Reply with quote
When you write a post there's a BBCode link. The only tags missing from that page are the custom ANN BBCode tags: [spoiler] and [table]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:41 am Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
When you write a post there's a BBCode link. The only tags missing from that page are the custom ANN BBCode tags: [spoiler] and [table]

Bookmarked—thanks! Smile
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