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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:29 pm Reply with quote
The ending of this arc was suitably good in terms of character relationships and typically underwhelming in its resolution of its mystery. That said, the teaser bit with spoiler[Cordelia's appearance] at the end could result in much fun ahead, so I'm nowhere close to giving up on this one.
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EmbraceMe



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:39 pm Reply with quote
Agreed, it wrapped itself up pretty well this arc. The character relationships are going great, but the mysteries are pretty much the same, just that this one was eh... mediocre? The end with the guy talking to someone (whose silhouette seems like Cordellia) is interesting. I do want some challenging mysteries. Finding out the culprits is easy in this anime.
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:08 am Reply with quote
Once again, no supernatural explanation for anything need apply.

I do think this show should have been able to do a better job of setting up the clues so the viewer would have a chance of solving the mystery before it is revealed. That bit spoiler[with the acorns] was clever and fair, but I just don't see how the murder of Theodore could have been solved by anybody but Victorique.

Also, that fight on the bridge was kind of dumb, and even more so was that spoiler[all of Victorique's companions abandon her to save Kuji all by herself.] That's just dopey.

In spite of all that, I am still enjoying this. It has a charm that it strives for and meets it.
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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:13 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
Once again, no supernatural explanation for anything need apply.

So... the village elder was randomly having seizures and/or making stuff up? Viable, and even likely, explanation, but I'm also sensing an overall motif of fortune-telling and fairy-tales, reinterpreting them into a skeptical and more realistic perspective, as opposed to the usual acceptance of the occult so prevalent in manga and anime.
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:39 pm Reply with quote
Crazy maid was a comedy boon for these couple episodes. Really, how did spoiler[no one suspect the obviously mentally unbalanced girl as the murderer? They barely even needed to provoke her to get her to admit her guilt in public.] Also, way to make counting over-dramatic. And hilarious.

So, I've given up trying to take this show seriously. How does one move that quickly and start explosive fires with a torch? Is the entire town made from oil products? Or the inconsistency of sentencing for crimes. Cordellia was found guilty and merely banished from the village after she got over her sickness, but the real killer: IMMEDIATE EXECUTION! And seeing how the crime was actually committed, and why, dear goodness was it stupid. spoiler[The victim's first action is to start picking up the gold coins rather than see what knocked them out of their hiding place behind a closed door? And a six year old's first response to hearing that she's going to die in 20 years is to kill the person who told her that? Sure, Harminia was unhinged, but that's just crappy writing.]

[spoiler]Why did Kujo pass out while falling? What purpose does that serve for the story? Just not reaching the end of the bridge before it collapsed achieves the same goal. But, wow, Victorique is pretty strong, apparently, catching and pulling Kujo up over the lip of the cliff by herself. So, yeah, why didn't any of the other characters try to help out there? And what happened to Grevil's constables; did they just get left behind? He brought some with him when he arrived, right? [spoiler]

Also, I'm pretty sure the secondary mystery was entirely pointless. I don't think we even learned 2 of the characters' names until after their deaths. Good job making sure I didn't care about them at all show.
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jsc315



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:55 pm Reply with quote
Maybe it's just me but I'm slowly loosing interest in this series with every new episode that comes out. It's not a bad show by any means but I'm just getting bored of it and not finding it nearly as interesting or fun to watch the show as it was earlier in the first few episodes. Am I alone on this?
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BMJ



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:51 am Reply with quote
jsc315 wrote:
Maybe it's just me but I'm slowly loosing interest in this series with every new episode that comes out. It's not a bad show by any means but I'm just getting bored of it and not finding it nearly as interesting or fun to watch the show as it was earlier in the first few episodes. Am I alone on this?


No, I'd say that's about right. Gosick is just a mediocre show. Not bad, but nothing to keep viewers on the edge of their seat waiting for the next episode. I'm still following it, but I could easily see myself dropping it at some point without much regret.

My favorite part of the entire show so far has been the ED.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:24 pm Reply with quote
Episode 9:

The new mystery seems like pretty standard fare, but the whole episode was worth watching just for the scene where spoiler[Victorique gets the shot]. The voice acting sold it beautifully, too.
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egoist



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:26 pm Reply with quote
Oh, the shot scene. Razz See, this is so much better when we don't have the serious Victorique. Now we just need that magician appearing often... he seems very entertaining.
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:28 pm Reply with quote
"'Fugee'? What the heck's a 'fugee'?!"

This show is a much better comedy than it is a detective story.

So, why is Victorique still confined to the campus? spoiler[The original reasoning was related to her father finding out about her mother's alleged crime, but now that she's proven Cordellia's innocence, shouldn't she be free to go?]
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RoverTX



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:22 am Reply with quote
Dorcas_Aurelia wrote:

spoiler[Why did Kujo pass out while falling? What purpose does that serve for the story? Just not reaching the end of the bridge before it collapsed achieves the same goal. But, wow, Victorique is pretty strong, apparently, catching and pulling Kujo up over the lip of the cliff by herself. So, yeah, why didn't any of the other characters try to help out there? And what happened to Grevil's constables; did they just get left behind? He brought some with him when he arrived, right? ]


spoiler[Breathing in lots of smoke tends to knock you out. Also I remember it just ending with her holding on to him, so they could have helped and it just didn't show it.] I think your taking the show a little to seriously. Its big time light weight stuff but its good light weight stuff. Brian off and enjoy. Its like Scooby Doo, you know old man Smith is the ghost, but finding that out is not really the point of watching, its to see how the characters deal with the problem at hand.


Dorcas_Aurelia wrote:
So, why is Victorique still confined to the campus? spoiler[The original reasoning was related to her father finding out about her mother's alleged crime, but now that she's proven Cordellia's innocence, shouldn't she be free to go?]


I think its implied that while that part of why she is imprisoned is really because her father wants to control her to keep control of her 'wellspring of wisdom' or w/e the silly reason for the over the top snowflake graphics is.
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Mister V



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:32 am Reply with quote
RoverTX wrote:

Its like Scooby Doo, you know old man Smith is the ghost, but finding that out is not really the point of watching, its to see how the characters deal with the problem at hand.

Maybe this is childhood nostalgia, but I really do think Scooby Doo had much better plots than this Razz

At least they tried to make the French more or less correct, though it's still awkward.
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:20 pm Reply with quote
Dorcas_Aurelia wrote:
"So, why is Victorique still confined to the campus? spoiler[The original reasoning was related to her father finding out about her mother's alleged crime, but now that she's proven Cordellia's innocence, shouldn't she be free to go?]


I thought the reason was she was an illegitimate daughter.
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:24 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
the whole episode was worth watching just for the scene where spoiler[Victorique gets the shot]. The voice acting sold it beautifully, too.


I liked how the strands of hair on her head popped out one by one.
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:55 pm Reply with quote
RoverTX wrote:
I think your taking the show a little to seriously. Its big time light weight stuff but its good light weight stuff. Brian off and enjoy. Its like Scooby Doo, you know old man Smith is the ghost, but finding that out is not really the point of watching, its to see how the characters deal with the problem at hand.

Except that aside from the art this is a pretty mediocre show, and I'd rather not be spending time on something that isn't at least good. This is a Bones show. I expect better from than just passable fare.
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