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nakobass wrote:

See that's the point of Gundam 00, they became the world's enemy and destroyed sourses of war like drugs, political gains, and unitied the world against them.

I understand that, but that doesn't result in a lasting alliance, also the portrayal of the movie has Celestial Being basically being hailed as heroes.

Charred Knight wrote:

nakobass wrote: See that's the point of Gundam 00, they became the world's enemy and destroyed sourses of war like drugs, political gains, and unitied the world against them. I understand that, but that doesn't result in a lasting alliance, also the portrayal of the movie has Celestial Being basically being hailed as heroes.

Yeah, that's why CB was still active after the new Goverment took power. They knew they would still be needed.

As for being heros, Setsuna and CB did save all of Humanity from being assimilated by the ELS. I think that counts.

And, if Victory is the mecha ver. of Grave of the Fireflies, then I look forward to that too!

Ehh, I dunno about that. Victory kills off many characters and does so often, but it's with a frequency that makes it nearly impossible to care about their deaths.

Grave of the Fireflies, a hard-hitting, emotional look at children in wartime, is best replicated in the Gundam franchise by the afore-mentioned 0080. THAT is like the GoftF of mecha.

nakobass wrote:

Charred Knight wrote: nakobass wrote: See that's the point of Gundam 00, they became the world's enemy and destroyed sourses of war like drugs, political gains, and unitied the world against them. I understand that, but that doesn't result in a lasting alliance, also the portrayal of the movie has Celestial Being basically being hailed as heroes. Yeah, that's why CB was still active after the new Goverment took power. They knew they would still be needed. As for being heros, Setsuna and CB did save all of Humanity from being assimilated by the ELS. I think that counts.

What good can Celestial Being do? I mean it's not like any of them are leaders who are able to united the divided cultures of the world. It's not like Setsuna can erase the racism that is present world wide. Also the movie hailing Celestial Being as heroes takes place at the beginning.

@nakobass: I remember the presentation. If that's all it takes to convince you of not only the existence of extraterrestrial life but its having visited our world, then, um, keep watching the skies, I guess. The truth is out there. . . .

As for SEED, did you miss the the whole George Glenn Whalestone bit?

See, I don't think Gundam fans really understand just how confusing your franchise is.

I was too busy wondering what kind of shampoo these guys use for their ridiculously long hair to care much about the battle strategy meetings

I agree that realistically speaking, Celestial Being's plan is fundamentally flawed and unsustainable, but I still found the show enjoyable. The plot was exciting, the animation was beautiful, and it had one of the least annoying casts in a Gundam series. At the end of the day, we're talking about a franchise with giant robots fighting each other. There's got to be a little suspension of disbelief.

enurtsol, keep it on topic. This is an anime board, not your political soapbox. Take your agenda where it belongs and lets keep this thread on topic.

spoiler[GN-0000 turning into a freakin' field of rainbow flowers at the end of the movie.]

Out of all the Gundam series I have seen, Gundam 00 is my favorite and has the most realistic plan for peace. The only true way to bring 3 enemies together is to give them all a common enemy, The Gundams. Then through understanding one another that peace is lasting but not perfect.

To understand Gundam 00 you have to learn about the Plan Aleolia came up with. It explains everything.

The Gundam 00 series and movie was great. Truly one of the best anime series I have seen in a long time. I really hope they release an OVA or a squeal in the future.

I like all the Gundam pilots compared to only a few or non from other Gundam series. And I enjoyed how they almost had a major robot battle in every episode. All that talking for 3 or more episodes really got on my nerves in Gundam Seed, that and all the clip show battles. There were almost none in Gundam 00.

Ultimately I should not be laughing at Gundam. Gundam 00 takes itself pretty seriously, (Haro balls provide some comic relief) so why can't I take it seriously? I suppose I just can't buy into the premise. Celestial Being's plan is to stop war forever… by making more war? That's the plan?

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Ultimately I should not be laughing at Gundam. Gundam 00 takes itself pretty seriously, (Haro balls provide some comic relief) so why can't I take it seriously? I suppose I just can't buy into the premise. Celestial Being's plan is to stop war forever… by making more war? That's the plan?

Celestial Being was created to focus everyone's anger on them and get the world to unite together to fight against them. By being the source of trouble, everyone would come together in order to defeat them.