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opaquescum
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Please bare with me for the past few years I may have bought a total of 20 anime titles, and have majorly been engrosed in a MMORPG star wars galaxies needless to say that pass time is gone. So I have decided to redirect my efforts into what has become a small hobby. I have basically just picked up a anime title here or there that caught my eye, and was decently priced.
Recently my local sam goody aka suncoast aka on cue had a going out of business sale. You know 30 percent off which was a godsend alot of cheap anime. So I went peruseing and came across Gantz. I bought the first 4 volumes just over 50 bucks pretty good deal. Brought them home watched them. I was spell bound was back 3 days later picking up volumes 5,6,7,8. Only to find that there were still 2 more to go sigh so I am waiting for those to come in the mail. I have really enjoyed this series, and I cannot recollect ever seeing any anime like this. I am not even sure how you would catagorize it. Rich character developement alot of morality tale, and a good balance of action. Like I said I haven't really been on the ball for the last few years. So I am not sure whether there are any more series that come close to what this series is. I know this is a gonzo production is this indicative of their work? Any info would be cool thanks in advance. I would roll through the site trying to figure out what is like Gantz, but I am not exactly sure what Gantz is. |
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milcor1
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I don't see how people seem to keep finding lessons of biblical proportions in Gantz. Its never been meant to be anything more than what it is, a skin-deep fantasy action title with buxom women and cool gadgets.
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TranceLimit174
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Hmm, I don't think you'll find anything similar to Gantz unless the only thing you're looking for is a violence factor. Gantz is pretty much one of a kind. I'm sorry to say, but enjoy what you know of the show while you can. Those last 2 DVDs will almost ruin the series for you (which is unfortunate seeing as how it was so great up until then).
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opaquescum
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This is what I was afraid of that I would happen to find something that knocks my socks off, and then find its the only one of its kind. I also know I probabally do not want to see the last 2 volumes, but you know at this point I am kind of committed. Damn my buying volume 8 now I have a need to know kind of thing going.
Perhaps its a maturity thing that is blocking your reception milcor. I know that gantz dosent present the typical moral dilemas that you see everywhere else. I can point out half a dozen moral dilemas thus far and go into detail, but then this would be total spoiler. I am not saying your immature its just some of these moral questions in gantz are very deep, and do seem to require some personal insight. I find it hard that someone cannot have strong emotions about social apathy, media distortion, domestic violence, parental responsibility, just violence. I suppose you have to experience or have personal knowledge of such things. Anyway all I can say is that the characters really do come alive for me, and their well being. Then their fates mean something to me. Even the deaths of back story characters seem to touch me to a great degree. Anyway thanks for the headsup Trance. I suppose I have to wait till they come up with a Gantz 2 down the line, or something with the same dynamic comes along. Which to me is a real tragedy. Now that I feal spoiled by it. |
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Pleroma
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Oh, things in the anime scene are hardly so dire. Gantz while good is certainly not the only nor the highest quality product out there. It would help if you were more specific as to what exatcly you are looking for beyond just saying "something unique."
On the visual shock level I'd say the closest thing is Elfen Lied (an excellent and unique show on its own that I can't reccomend enough) but if you are looking for mature social commentary in any setting there are dozens of great shows that fit the bill, same for uniqueness. A good idea would be to expand beyond the shelves and check some fansub sites and see what is most popular (Monster comes to mind as something you may enjoy.) If you can give us a list or an idea of the type of shows you enjoy we could probably give much better reccomendations. |
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milcor1
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Anyone can find deeper meanings in anything if they look hard enough. It's like looking at clouds above and trying to discern if one of them resembles something familiar. It's the same for Gantz, sure you can find "moral dillemas", but in the end the author never created Gantz with the intention of them specifically being there. I have read the whole Gantz manga up to its current chapter (way ahead of the anime). While reading it, I found it to be a great manga for reasons that include incredible artwork, fun story, original monsters, etc. but hardly for anything that would make me scratch my head and start thinking, because I just don't think thats what the author wanted the reader to dwell on. Are recent anime titles becoming so shallow that stuff like Gantz are the shows that are flexing people's brains?! But if you need more of a Gantz fix, I suggest checking out the manga as it goes way beyond the anime (and alot more violent too). |
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TranceLimit174
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Well I think Gantz does bring a little more to the table that sheer violence and sex. Is that a part of it? Most definitley and in mass quantities. But at the same time I think there's a very nice social commentary (last 5 or so eps. aside). To be honest, I enjoyed the character interaction moreso than the action. At least to me it rang very true (Kurono was basically speaking my mind on a lot of things). The way people acted and how they thought is what attracted me to the show because, at least in my opinion, was so real.
As far as the show. Yeah by all means finish the show. I did it too. Couldn't leave things unfinished and naturally the mind is curious. But they are disappointing. I haven't gotten around to it yet but apparently the manga is the way to go as it goes way beyond the anime's ending spoiler[or lack thereof.] |
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benbboy
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Well, I loved this series from start to finish. I'll admit that I'm only sixteen but I handle the issues in the series maturely. I can see what is meant by the lack of ending for this anime series; but this has been exaggerated in my opinion.
The part of the series that actually frustrated me, was when spoiler[ everyone was so damn focused on pulling or not pulling the trigger.] This was just killed; far too much emphasis on something that tried to effect the viewer emotionally but fell short. Despite a few shortcomings in the series, spoiler[and a few characters i loved being killed off,] this was a series I'd recommend to anyone who can handle real life: blood, sex, and hate. |
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hentai4me
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Gantz=crap.
sorry but seriously I cant remember seeing a series I disliked more, the first half of the series is spent developing the characters(sort of...we only really get anything on one of them and then its not much) and the whole 'should I kill to stay alive thing' which was around half of each fight sequence. Then spoiler[everyone dies]...what a waste, only the most annoying character actually spoiler[survives] and the ending is beyond belief...it not open ended...oh no...its spoiler[nonexistant] biggest waste of money ever and that includes my first car that ran for a week before the engine block cracked or something... |
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darkhunter
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You dislike the series so much but you brought the series (all 10 volume) to the end? I don't get it, most people would drop a series when they start disliking it.
From what you're saying, it seem like you didn't really understand gantz, but that's okay. Some people like their story and character in the converntional way. |
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hentai4me
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no no I didn't buy it, a friend had the entire series and he made me watch because 'its so brilliant'. and do Ilike conventional stories? well conventional in that the characters are either likable or alive(in the active on screen sense, not vampires...) and the story has decetn development that isnt undone in the closing eps for no apparent reason...oh and conventional in that there is an ending...even an open ended one... |
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opaquescum
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I think I will go to the extras on this one where I think it was the director that explained Gantz as a crucible. Where you have a very bleak situation. You toss in some people with real problems. I think that kind of synergy is part of it. I want to see some strained interaction.
I also would like a series that did like gantz did. Have it be full of deeper meanings and alot of interconnectivity. You know where suddenly your watching and it just hits you that what that scene 4 episodes back was getting to. I have watch the series so far probabally six times through, and I keep discovering things I totally missed the first time through. I think I would like more of that in a series. Where a episode could stand alone but its tied in on both ends. Some shows are interconnected but its usually linear character A does this because B happened 3 episodes before. I suppose I want a series where what happens was scripted well in advance. So you can actually see the character develope up until the choice. Sex/Violence I think Gantz probabally went a bit over on the sex yeah there is alot of plot and moral choice to deal with it, but the scenes were definately too long. The violence wasnt a major selling point for me either. Though it does have a point to it being that it totally justifies the sheer panic and utter shock the players feal in the middle of the battles. Plus it seemed to add a little power to already charged scenes. I think it was done so well infact that it made many scenes stronger, and made me feal more strongly about things then I might otherwise. Anyway violence and sex arent big components for me. I think they can be done well and add to a story, but I just do not think I can be sold on a series simply for gore or sex. I hope that makes more sense. Milcor I do not know what to say. I can tell you its their and on the DVD the director I beleive said it was a crucible of character developement. The characters change over time as they face their demons. So there is an intent there. Now maybe the intent has eluded you or did not come across to you. I have had people tell me that the LOTR has a happy ending. I sure as hell cannot see it to me it comes off being utterly depressing and sad. I thank you for the manga suggestion, but this raises a question for me. You do not seem to see the deeper notes in the TV series. Which is what I really like. So I am left wondering is the manga actually devoid of them. In which case isnt worth a wooden nickle to me, or could be chopped full of it, and since its like invisible to you. You might not be able to say its like or not like the TV show. I suppose Gantz either clicks with you or not. Just looking for something else with that clickability. |
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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I too was hooked on this series, up until Volume 6/Episode 13. I really liked the $18 MSRP per 2 episodes, picked them up for $11 at Best Buy, but when I heard the rest of this series was to receive a "standard" 4-3-3-3 Thirteen Episode Anime release, I quit. Not only that, I got news that the first season would be available in a thinpack, so I figured season 2 would be available in a thinpack for much cheaper than buying the individual titles. I havn't seen the ending, I picked up Vol.7 for $10 used, and even though it was awesome, I didn't commit and figured I could wait, specially since I heard about the ending.
I'm actually interested to hear how you felt about the ending, that is when you see the final 2 volumes. I wanna hear it from a Gantz fan point of view. I mean I mainly hear that the last arc of Rurouni Kenshin was horrible, but I also hear a couple people say it was good. If you liked the gore, might I suggest Elfen Lied. Not really like the Gantz "Men-In-Black" feel, but a really good story, gory, and just all around awesome anime. I tried posting this last night before 10 and ended up falling asleep. Oh well. |
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Pleroma
Posts: 443 Location: Eromanga island |
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The problem is that different people can find deep meaning in all sorts of things. Some may think of Gantz as a hack job and yet consider Rozen Maiden the pinnacle of character depth and are ultimately no more wrong than those who see it the other way around.
However, ther ARE shows with undoubted depth so I would like to add Haibane Renmei, Lain, Kino's Journey, Now and Then Here and There and Paranoia Agent to my Elfen Lied reccomendation. Also I am assuming that you have seen the big guns like Eva and Rahxephon here. PS: Currently ongoing there is an amazing series called NOEIN that I would urge you to check out ^^ |
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opaquescum
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Thanks pleroma I have seen paranoia agent, and I know thats something similar to what I am looking for. I try to avoid series that I can see on TV though. Though the fact that you seem to be so close gives extra merit to your suggestions I will check them out.
Nope haven't seen either Eva or rahxephon. Even more I have to get. P.S. Guys about this whole morality tales thing. That was their intent if you have gantz go to the extras. That is if your not on thinpak. Perhaps I will need to transcribe it I will watch the extras throughout so I can lay them out for you guys. Thats one thing about extras sometimes they give you something for you to pay attention too. I will not spoil anything but all those blurbs about the boys in the news all end up mentioning the pornography. Like it has anything to do with what they did nice commentary on the media. Thanks again pleroma you have definately narrowed my field. |
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