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Majin Blanka
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Just out of curiosity ... shouldn't Breaking the Habit be in the encyclopedia? I mean, it's Japanese animation, right? Doesn't that qualify as anime?
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Animefan16
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It was a music video, not a movie or tv show, or ova.
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Nagisa
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Egao's a music video, too.
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Lord_Satorious
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I've seen this video, and maybe it's just the quality of the encoding, or the specific look Linkin Park was looking for, but the CG quality is about as good as I've seen in video games five years ago. The main character's movements were stiff and unrealistic and nothing was particularly well-detailed. I know Gonzo can do better than that.
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littlegreenwolf
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The CLAMP music videos are also in the encyclopedia. |
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Majin Blanka
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Miyazaki's On Your Mark is, too.
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Tempest
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If someone can get me the names of the animators and a few other people (more than just the director) I'd be glad to add it.
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Cloe
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I'm willing to bet almost anything that the character's stiff movements are a result of rotoscoping, an animation technique that is basically, well, tracing video reference footage. (This is a massive paraphrasing of the actual definition), go here for a more accurate one: http://www.3drender.com/glossary/rotoscope.htm I'm sure that just about everyone in the forum already knows what rotoscoping is, but just in case... While rotoscoping can have a very beautiful effect and add an almost surreal, dreamlike quality to traditional animation (such as in Waking Life), much too often movements captured from real life tend to look awkward when they're turned into animation. A lot of the time, they will look even more unrealistic than if the animator had chosen to just study some reference footage but draw the keyframes and plan the timing his/herself. Detail is often lost from rotoscoping as well. Animated characters' movements are meant to be exaggerated, I think, to look more natural. Feel free to disagree. I don't post much (I'm extremely non confrontational--I mostly enjoy reading what other people have to say), but I wholly agree that the video could have been better. The pacing and overall style of the video was as good as gold, but things could have been improved on the technical side. Oh, and it was Gonzo who animated it? I didn't know that. Sorry for taking up so much space! |
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MizunoL
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If this does go in the encyclopedia I think it should be in the anime-related section. While a Japanese studio was responsible for the animation it wasn't primarily intended for a Japanese audience.
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Mr Mania
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Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't the second season of Big-O intended primarily for an American audience and I'm sure you would agree that belongs in the anime section. Same with The Animatrix and the anime sequence in Kill Bill. |
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Cloe
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Agreed. If it was animated by a Japanese studio then it counts as anime. |
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Tempest
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Lots of American shows are animated overseas. There's no single factor that makes something "anime" you should consider multiple factors like where it was animated, who it was animated for, who directed it, who wrote the screenplay and so-on... Big O 2 may have been animated because of the American success of Big - O, but it follows the original Big O story, which was created for a Japanese audience. We don't even know if any special considerations for an american audience were made when animating it... The Linkin Park Video may have been animated in Japan, because the group wanted a certain visual style that they knew this animator did, but otherwise, what creative influence did the Japanese animators have on the video? |
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Mr Mania
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Well in all fairness its not completely true to say that it was aimed primarily at an American audience either. Its not like a TV series or movie, its a music video. Its aimed at Linkin Park fans whether they be from America, Europe, Japan or anywhere else in the world. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Linkin Park have a well established fan base in Japan. On another note I just checked the Linkin Park website to see if I could pick up any info on who was involved in making the video. According to their Q&A apparently Kazuto Nakazawa was involved in someway. Nakazawa was involved with the animated sequence in Kill Bill which as we all know was animated by production ig. I believe somebody in another thread on this video brought up the point that they thought the Linking Park video was done by Production IG rather than Gonzo. I guess Nakazawa would be the connection. Edit:This was already noted by Sam: in the other thread Also again from the Q&A on their site Mike(I think he is the hip hop guy) says:
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Emerje
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Not to mention the second season premiered in Japan, not America. Emerje |
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Emerje
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I had heard it was being done by Tokyopop in a sort of Cinamanga format, but I can't find anything about it on the TP site. Emerje |
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