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Mr. Oshawott
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 Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:42 pm
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Five idol groups in a decade...I wonder what alphabet group will AKB48 will think of next?
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:34 pm
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More girls suffering, the music from these AKB groups is below average as well. Then again, I wouldn't be performing my best either if I had tyrants for managers who may throw me in a cage to be kicked around for ratings and I had to sign my happiness away just to join. It's a curse or maybe a miracle in a dark, cynical sense that they stay and take it for fame. I pray the poor dears who join see the light and get out of there fast to go into voice acting, regular acting, or just go to college and get a degree in something.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:44 pm
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In the future, every 12-yr-old Japanese will belong to an idol group!
There will be more kids in idol groups than attending high school!
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lostrune
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:28 pm
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| Hoppy800 wrote: | | More girls suffering, the music from these AKB groups is below average as well. Then again, I wouldn't be performing my best either if I had tyrants for managers who may throw me in a cage to be kicked around for ratings and I had to sign my happiness away just to join. It's a curse or maybe a miracle in a dark, cynical sense that they stay and take it for fame. I pray the poor dears who join see the light and get out of there fast to go into voice acting, regular acting, or just go to college and get a degree in something. |
Did one of them kick your dog or something? 
| enurtsol wrote: | | In the future, every 12-yr-old Japanese will belong to an idol group!
There will be more kids in idol groups than attending high school! |
One step closer to anime being real!
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:47 pm
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| lostrune wrote: |
| Hoppy800 wrote: | | More girls suffering, the music from these AKB groups is below average as well. Then again, I wouldn't be performing my best either if I had tyrants for managers who may throw me in a cage to be kicked around for ratings and I had to sign my happiness away just to join. It's a curse or maybe a miracle in a dark, cynical sense that they stay and take it for fame. I pray the poor dears who join see the light and get out of there fast to go into voice acting, regular acting, or just go to college and get a degree in something. |
Did one of them kick your dog or something?
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It's a mix of criticism (for the groups singing and the unethical practices from the managers) and pity for the idols who signed their life away not knowing what they will really expect. It's a near endless cycle of exploitation and corporate tyranny.
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gloverrandal
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:49 am
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| Hoppy800 wrote: | | It's a mix of criticism (for the groups singing and the unethical practices from the managers) and pity for the idols who signed their life away not knowing what they will really expect. It's a near endless cycle of exploitation and corporate tyranny. |
Do you have a source for all these claims?
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:18 am
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| lostrune wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: | |
In the future, every 12-yr-old Japanese will belong to an idol group!
There will be more kids in idol groups than attending high school! |
One step closer to anime being real! |
We've always been of the opinion that, if 3D girls just become more like anime girls, the world would be a safer place. 
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It's a mix of criticism (for the groups singing and the unethical practices from the managers) and pity for the idols who signed their life away not knowing what they will really expect. It's a near endless cycle of exploitation and corporate tyranny. |
There was just a TV piece about America in the 60s: back then, airplane stewardesses were required to be certain body requirements, unmarried, and have to leave the job after 32 years old. Eventually, the stewardesses fought back in court and won.
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CrowLia
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:37 am
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| Mr. Oshawott wrote: | | Five idol groups in a decade...I wonder what alphabet group will AKB48 will think of next? |
They're not randomly picked letters, though, they're obviously shorthands for the place they're from (AKB= Akiba/Akihabara, NGT=Niigata, NMB= Namba, etc)
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:43 am
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I read "Niigata" as "Nigeria" for some reason. That'd be one of the worst places to have idol pop groups.
| enurtsol wrote: | | There was just a TV piece about America in the 60s: back then, airplane stewardesses were required to be certain body requirements, unmarried, and have to leave the job after 32 years old. Eventually, the stewardesses fought back in court and won. |
Some airlines from other countries still enforce this sort of thing. I remember flying on Korean Air somewhat recently; the plane's flight attendants were all slim young women.
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MasterGhost
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:07 am
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| gloverrandal wrote: |
| Hoppy800 wrote: | | It's a mix of criticism (for the groups singing and the unethical practices from the managers) and pity for the idols who signed their life away not knowing what they will really expect. It's a near endless cycle of exploitation and corporate tyranny. |
Do you have a source for all these claims? |
It's not a source per say, dozens of documentaries, magazine reports, and professional papers have already been written criticizing this idol culture unique to Japan. I'm doing a report for my school about such a phenomenon now, so I know that.
For starters, you may want to just look at one particular incident which happened exactly two years ago: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2013/02/01/music/akb48-members-penance-shows-flaws-in-idol-culture/#.VMZKSv6UeSo
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Chrno2
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:15 pm
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Another group? Just keep pumping them out don't you Japan. They must have a giant hive mind queen that births them. The care takers basically mold them to be the beloved pop idol they want them to be.
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Fedora-san
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:58 pm
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| Hoppy800 wrote: | | It's a mix of criticism (for the groups singing and the unethical practices from the managers) and pity for the idols who signed their life away not knowing what they will really expect. It's a near endless cycle of exploitation and corporate tyranny. |
Yeah, these idols think they're happy, but they're really not. Thankfully they have us to show them the error of their ways and correct them.
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