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NEWS: Wit Studio to Animate Seraph of the End




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Stark700



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:32 pm Reply with quote
Since Rolling Girls will be debuting next year as well, I assume this might air during Spring? Anyways...

I'm hoping they will adapt this faithfully. My original guess for the studio was Madhouse though.
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KH91



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:44 am Reply with quote
I have faith in this.

I want more Legend of The Legendary Heroes, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:55 am Reply with quote
KH91 wrote:
I have faith in this.

I want more Legend of The Legendary Heroes, too.


Agreed on wanting more LoL Heros.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:14 am Reply with quote
No high hope for this studio after i see what they can do with good material like AoT. I still can't believe people think AoT has great or good animation.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:19 am Reply with quote
Spotlesseden wrote:
No high hope for this studio after i see what they can do with good material like AoT. I still can't believe people think AoT has great or good animation.

Are you referring to the TV version or the blu-ray version? Because there's a huge difference.

Also, despite the scenes that lack animation (stills and cutouts), the important parts with animation were animated absolutely beautifully. Essentially, especially during the TV broadcast, they decided to spend their limited time and budget on key action scenes, which also improved in the later eps, rather than spread it around, which would've resulted in mediocre animation everywhere. So given scarce resources at the time--they were even asking for spare animators on twitter--the approach they took worked best.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:52 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:
Spotlesseden wrote:
No high hope for this studio after i see what they can do with good material like AoT. I still can't believe people think AoT has great or good animation.

Are you referring to the TV version or the blu-ray version? Because there's a huge difference.


No there isn't. The only thing that got touched up was the art (which actually look worse in some cases) also the fact that they had to go back it fix it proves his point, that's a process damn near every studio goes even Toei that doesn't stop people from pointing out their mistakes in broadcast.

configspace wrote:

Also, despite the scenes that lack animation (stills and cutouts), the important parts with animation were animated absolutely beautifully.

No they weren't. You're just a blind fanboy

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Essentially, especially during the TV broadcast, they decided to spend their limited time and budget on key action scenes, which also improved in the later eps, rather than spread it around, which would've resulted in mediocre animation everywhere.


They had a huge budget backing them and also that process is worse because it led to the majority of the series looking like crap and only a tiny portion looking marginally decent of course you being a fanboy ignore all those instances and focuses on few of the decent scenes.

configspace wrote:

So given scarce resources at the time--they were even asking for spare animators on twitter--the approach they took worked best.


Wow...even the producer realizes that it didn't look good and that they'll improve in the second season, this goes beyond ignorance you're just deluded.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:56 am Reply with quote
ChocoBar1 wrote:
configspace wrote:
Spotlesseden wrote:
No high hope for this studio after i see what they can do with good material like AoT. I still can't believe people think AoT has great or good animation.

Are you referring to the TV version or the blu-ray version? Because there's a huge difference.


No there isn't. The only thing that got touched up was the art (which actually look worse in some cases) also the fact that they had to go back it fix it proves his point, that's a process damn near every studio goes even Toei that doesn't stop people from pointing out their mistakes in broadcast.

Merely "touched up art"? Nearly everything was redrawn--as in the animation itself--I mean literally a large of the frames in every scene, and a few scenes are entirely different. Here's just some examples:
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-19385.html
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18784.html
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18239.html

In fact, I'm going to call you because it's obvious you haven't watched the blu-rays, have no ideas about the differences are merely going by your own presumptions.

How can it prove his point that Wit Studio is not the right studio for this, when ALL other studios also corrects and updates the animation for home video? If anything it would prove the opposite because everyone else also faces the same issues about time and resources since they are producing the show as quickly as possible while it airs. Therefore the realities of the entire industry simply means you can only judge the final animation for the home video version, NOT the broadcast version.


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configspace wrote:

Also, despite the scenes that lack animation (stills and cutouts), the important parts with animation were animated absolutely beautifully.

No they weren't. You're just a blind fanboy

Yes just assert something without any proof.

Here are clips from the TV broadcast:
http://youtu.be/siV9PSnbmig?t=45s
- If you anything about animation at all, you'll realize how much work went into this non-fight scene alone in ep4, and how good it was even before the blu-ray revisions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGMP3x99FM
- fight scene 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZCl7RqpN4
- fight scene 2


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configspace wrote:

Essentially, especially during the TV broadcast, they decided to spend their limited time and budget on key action scenes, which also improved in the later eps, rather than spread it around, which would've resulted in mediocre animation everywhere.


They had a huge budget backing them and also that process is worse because it led to the majority of the series looking like crap and only a tiny portion looking marginally decent of course you being a fanboy ignore all those instances and focuses on few of the decent scenes.

First, you don't know the budget.
Second, all of budget in the world will not help if you don't have enough time or people. Why else would they put a call out to help on twitter? In fact, Ordet did the same for Wake Up Girls

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configspace wrote:

So given scarce resources at the time--they were even asking for spare animators on twitter--the approach they took worked best.


Wow...even the producer realizes that it didn't look good and that they'll improve in the second season, this goes beyond ignorance you're just deluded.

Rolling Eyes

As I've already shown, they already improved it for home video. This situation may vary degree, but it won't be any different with any other studio. And given how every studio will be constrained on a tight schedule, the approach Wit Studio took to sacrifice a bit in some scenes (static, cutouts) and put more of man-hours on other scenes as I've shown in clips above is the best approach that any studio could hope for in the same circumstances.
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Gutsmen





PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:40 am Reply with quote
Lol, people saying that AoT animation was bad. You haven't watched many anime, have you?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:56 am Reply with quote
If AoT's animation is bad then you must have extremely high standards regarding anime visuals. I'm no fanboy, but even me and my friend agree that it looks quite fluid, and of much more quality than your average anime adaptation. I mean sure, it does have a few still frames or flapping mouths here and there, but what anime doesn't? In comparison, instances of this in AoT are pretty slim. Yeah, there are probably a select amount of titles that have more consistently good animation, but not a very large amount. AoT is still pretty high up in my eyes.
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