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Utsuro no Hako
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Dwindling returns may be a risk for long running manga, but, from what Kodansha and Vertical have said on Tumblr, the bigger worry is committing to a long series and have the first volume flop.
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Angel M Cazares
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@Justin
On your answer to the first question, when you say "Casting choices are all subject to licensor approval", I am assuming you are referring to the R1 company (Funimation, Sentai, etc) as the licensor, right? I want to think that the Japanese companies have no input on how an overseas distribution company localizes anime. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Why in the world would you get that from what I wrote? We are talking about dub production, and the Japanese producer is always the licensor. |
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Key
Moderator
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Actually, angelmcazares, Justin quite probably means the original Japanese licensor. I have heard that come up several times before, although Justin will have to clarify himself whether that's commonplace or only an occasional occurrence. However, from what I've seen the licensor typically doesn't get too picky.
Concerning the manga (and this one is directed to Justin): If that's the case then why don't we see omnibus printings/reprintings more often than we do with manga? EDIT: Was typing the above apparently while Justin was responding. |
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Angel M Cazares
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I apologize if my post sounded troll-ish; I just wanted a clarification.
Thanks you Key for addressing my confusion. |
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MagicallyDelicious
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Hm, I guess I must be in the minority with my manga habits, then. I specifically prefer long running series (10+ volumes). The highlight of my manga reading is when I come across a series that already has 6-10 volumes out (and is preferably still going) and I missed it the first time, so I get to marathon read it. For a recent example, Kamisama Kiss. I just found out about that series and bought all the volumes that were out and pre-ordered the new one. I do all my manga buying online, though, so I have no trouble getting the old volumes.
I do pick up new series from volume 1 frequently as well, however I've been disappointed on multiple occasions where a series has ended unexpectedly, been dropped by the 'publisher', etc, so I'm actually more nervous about picking up a new series than I am an established one. |
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enurtsol
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Or it flops in the middle of the serial (sales drop too low) that they have a dilemma whether to continue while bleeding red, or take the PR hit to cancel it with fans (who already sunk a lot of money into it) complaining about not finishing what they started. As for anime workers starting their own studios, remember that sports agent movie Jerry Maguire ("Show me the money!") where the sports agent leaves his agency company to start his own sports agency and using his old contacts and networks to try to bring clients with him? Just like that. 
Anyways, limited editions aren't as they used to be. Heck even for regular editions. Back then, it took some 40k sales just to be considered a hit (remember these were sold in individual volumes). People were buying. |
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Greed1914
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I've been wondering this myself recently since I decided I would pick up the xxxHolic manga now that it is going to be reprinted in omnibus form. I suppose it could easily be that the Japanese companies are sluggish to adapt, which they are notorious for, but it also seems like the 12-13 episode sets have done well enough for long enough that omnibus might not be as tough of a sell. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I think some people like having each individual volume for the cover art, but yeah, omnibus volumes are more convenient for people who want to just tear through the story instead. Taking further, reading online or on devices might be the better way to go, since cramming more than 3 normal volumes of manga into a single book won't exactly be practical. But in Japan, the bulk of the population inhabits urban areas, which means trains, buses, and good decent commute times. That's gotta be one of the largest contributing factors to manga sales, ensuring that single volumes stay the norm. Sluggish to adapt? More like no need to.
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Animerican14
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Part of why I hardly buy any long-running manga, aside from allocating more of my spending money for other purposes, is that I lack the shelf space. Then again, I also have a goo number of shelves filled with around the first 5+ years of Shonen Jump USA, so it's not like I don't have a lot of shonen/fighting manga in my collection.
 I've been satisfied enough collecting shorter manga series, like A Bride's Story... and completing the collection of Tokyopop's Fruits Basket manga volumes (only a few more left!).
I'm surprised on how 'low' limited editions really are nowadays-- really, in the 1,000 to 2,000 range? I wonder how many Aniplex produces, then, since that seems to be their bread and butter. It's only been over the past couple months that counters for the Madoka Magica Limited Edition sets have finally appeared on the Right Stuf website, and it doesn't even carry anymore copies of the 2nd LE. Was a property that big really given that limited a range of numbers, as expensive as those sets may be? |
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Sailor S
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Seeing as I am not an employee of Aniplex this is complete speculation, but I think part of why those moved so slowly might be that a standard BD and DVD release were put out at the same time that the LEs were, so people that really wanted Madoka, but didn't care about the stuff in the collector's sets could instead buy those cheaper, less frills versions. I could certainly see there being only a couple thousand hardcore collector types who also liked Madoka in that case. |
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Animerican14
Posts: 963 Location: Saint Louis, MO |
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If there are only a couple thousand hardcore collectors that wanted Madoka...well, they must have been much more patient than TYPE-MOON fans in regards to that $300+ LE import set of Kara no Kyoukai, since I believe that sold out craaaaazy quick. Now how many of those sets were prepared for the North American market? It's hard to imagine both the Kara no Kyoukai and Madoka LE sets being produced in comparable numbers.
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BonnKansan
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Wow, as much caffeine as brewed coffee? That explains the "Oi!"
PSA: other soft drinks with surprising amounts of caffeine are Sunkist, A&W Creme Soda, Barq's Root Beer (might be more that I can't think of). |
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Yause
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Yeah, it's actually quite rare for creators to start their own outfits. Contrary to popular belief, most anime studios are defined by producers because they own the relationships with both the talent and the clients. In short, the people who start new studios are usually senior producers (generally long-time production assistants/managers who were subsequently promoted into a position of leadership) who aspire to become the man at the top. Poor financial conditions at a studio can open up an opportunity. However, a boost in market confidence (i.e. recent success with Blu-Ray discs and social media marketing) can spur on the same thing since there's room for more productions. Some would argue that these people are the least deserving of such a lucrative post - for instance, animators have grumbled that their producers are leeches who failed at every worthwhile task (animation, storyboarding, etc.) and then wormed their way upward - but that's how business goes. |
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Sailor S
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First off, Type Moon fans are generally fanatics (yes, I know fan is just short for fanatic, but they're beyond mere fans), so KnK selling out fast didn't surprise me. Second, that KnK was an import, meaning that they really didn't have to do anything other than allocate some copies for the international market. Maybe there was a tweak done here or there, but I think the sets that TRSI was selling were the same sets you'd buy if you were in Japan. The Madoka sets were created by Aniplex USA, so this wasn't just a matter of taking a section of the ones produced in Japan. I'm pretty sure you're right in thinking that the number of sets of KnK available was far less than the number of Madoka sets, but again that's just speculation on my part with nothing to prove or disprove it. |
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