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hojo 360
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Remake
 means NA actors a film about babies switched at birth we have had lots of films like this i just hope if he dose do it he makes sure to give JPN credit for the film and not cast Shia LaBeouf as one of the mains 
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Anti_Nadalista
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Ok, but the difference is that this movie won the Jury prize in Cannes :d. |
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YamadaKun
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Awards=/=good. Avatar can attest to that. |
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mdo7
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Before anyone come in and bash on Hollywood for remaking Asian films and dumbing them down from their original and calling it "whitewash". Please recall Japan and other part of Asia (Hong Kong/China, and Korea) has also remade Hollywood films too.
Japan remake Clint Eastwood award-winning film, Unforgiven Japan also remade Sideways China/Hong Kong remade Cellular into Connected Zhang Yimou remade Blood Simple into A simple Noodle Story Japan remade Ghost So if any of you haters going to bash on the US remake of this film or any Asian film. Then Japan and Asia should get the same for remaking American/Hollywood films. Last edited by mdo7 on Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:55 am; edited 2 times in total |
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YamadaKun
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I agree, a film should be judged as a stand alone piece, not whether it's based off a source. Also, I find it odd that people didn't call foul on the Korean version of some Oldboy, yet are crying over the Spike Lee version. Casting of right ethnic groups may or may not be an extra, but it doesn't break a film. A Chinese/Japanese Goku in DBE would have still sucked, not to mention that Goku is ethnically neutral. |
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mdo7
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As an Asian-American, I find it disgusting that people would bash Hollywood remake of Asian films but yet they give Japan/Asia remake of Hollywood films a free pass from criticism!!! *facepalm* This is why I dub those people "Asian Supremacist", "Pro-Asia ultranationalist", or "white people pretending they're Asian when they're not". It's unacceptable and not only that, I've seen the same remake haters bashing the American remake of Asian films but praising Asia for remaking American films and that include bashing the original American films that the Asian remake was based on. I've seen this, imagine this: What if Japan remake this film: 
Let say Sonny Chiba played Vito Corleone for the remake. I don't know who could play Michael, Kay, Sonny, Fredo, etc.... for the Japanese remake. Let say the news of this came out throughout mainstream media in the US, and the remake haters would say something like this: "Oh f(bleep) yeah, this remake is going to rock!!! You know what, f(bleep) the original version!!! The original film was a piece of s(bleep)!!! You know what f(bleep) the original film!!! F(bleep) you, Coppola!!! F(bleep) you, Pacino!!! F(bleep) you Brando!!! The Japanese is going to f(bleep) the American so bad, that you'll bow down to our Japanese master!!! Long live Nippon!!!" Yes, I seen comments like this when it comes to remake and this shows that hypocrisy and Asian supremacy exist in anime/manga/Asian culture fandom. Trust me, I've seen this and I knew something wasn't right. It's not only Oldboy, everytime a anime/manga get live-action adaptation when it comes to western live-action adaptation, people bash and citing whitewash. Yet when Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea adapt it into live-action nobody complain because Japanese characters are "yellow-washed" into either Chinese or Korea. How is changing Japanese characters into Korean or Chinese any different from turning Japanese characters into caucasian characters. About the whitewash thing, while people complain about Akira and Oldboy being white-wash, why didn't these same people bash Toei's Spiderman for "yellow-wash" the character, Spiderman/Peter Parker became Japanese. Nobody even complain about Thermae Romae where Japanese playing as Romans: 
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Mugley
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Is a hate crime against a white person as bad as a hate crime against a black person? Maybe but I imagine a lot of people will say the latter is worse due to history and white people being dominate. Same reason people complain when they changed Goku to white but it's okay to change Nick Fury and Kingpin to black men, or the Norse Gods in Thor to black. White people have a dominance in the world, black people and Asians do not. One is more damaging and locking out of minorities from an industry because of years of racism and favoritism. China remaking an American movie doesn't mean much but America remaking a Chinese movie does.. the American movie will overshadow the original. China plays a lot of American movies in their theaters.. America rarely plays any Chinese or Japanese movies in theaters in a wide release. American cinema is a lot more xenophobic compared to Asian cinema, since I can walk into a theater downtown in China or Japan and watch an American movie if I want, they're a lot more accepting of non-Asian actors. I'm was worried this was going to be some animated CG movie like Shrek since it said DreamWorks. |
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mdo7
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uh, here's the problem Mainland China limit American movies going into China. Like for example, Despicable Me 2 is banned in China. Any American films that show China or communism in a negative way get ban in China. But for Japan, well American films doesn't always do well hence Japan has started to remake American films. This article here explain why and I'll quote this:
So you see in Asia, Hollywood films can do well but not always because of local films have overtaken Hollywood films I think for the last few years from what I heard. Actually for the Japanese remake of Unforgiven, that has gotten a lot of attention in mainstream entertainment news. So I think maybe the Japanese remake of this film could probably get a theatrical release in the US. Yes I do see a double standard in the racial casting. As I said, fans yap about whitewashing Asian cast but don't complaint when there's "yellow-washing" like Japanese actors playing Roman in Thermae Romae or a Japanese actor playing a British Butler in the live-action Black Butler done by Japan *facepalm*. |
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YamadaKun
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I love how you say American cinema is xenophobic, but defend Chinese cinema, even though Chinese cinema try all they can to prevent foreign films from overtaking their own industry. I agree with Japan or even Hong Kong or South Korea, but never Mainland China. |
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YamadaKun
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I love how you say American cinema is xenophobic, but defend Chinese cinema, even though Chinese cinema try all they can to prevent foreign films from overtaking their own industry. I agree with Japan or even Hong Kong or South Korea, but never Mainland China. |
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bpophantom
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There's a complete difference between an American movie remaking a foreign film and a foreign movie remaking an American film. American movies are easily much more recognized not just in America but around the world that's why it tends to be an issue for some fans of the original works because they won't be recognized in the same regard as it's American counterpart. And there's only a handful of American films being remade into Asian films lol. Also, more than likely, it will probably only be shown in its own country which means that it won't even be seen or heard of by an international audience outside of an international film festival. Two things I'll add is that American creators, directors, writers, etc. never really admit to ANY type of inspiration from a foreign film especially an Asian (but I've noticed more frequently with anime for whatever reason) so American audiences and international audiences are being led to believe that it's original in some ways when a lot of times it's not at times it's blatant. Now for this Japanese film, it JUST came out this year and Spielberg is ALREADY thinking about doing a remake! That's odd because usually it takes at least a couple of years to remake a film but whatever I guess. And Asians are not NEARLY as recognized in American movies as Blacks are, in fact after White Americans it is Black Americans who are on screen so....just wanted to point that out.
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BonusStage
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That's a really troubling thing  It's one thing to remake a 30 year old movie, but a movie less than a year old gives off the impression of executives saying "This movie could do well here, as long as there aren't any of those icky minorities in it and it's in good old English!" It's like they didn't even attempt to release it in America as it is and went right for a remake.
Japan's remake of Ghost came out 20 years after the original film, and actually credits the original American film in it's title. Plus they air a bunch of American movies in Japan to begin with so it's not some conspiracy to hide Americans from cinema or anything and the films will probably actually air in Japan first before a remake appears unlike here
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mdo7
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Well, the Japanese remake of Unforgiven has already gotten attention in US via mainstream entertainment news as I mention in one of my post. So maybe there's a chance it could get a US theatrical release because it has Ken Watanabe in it. Also Asian remakes of US films has gotten some amount of attention for the last few years in the US (and maybe around the world) at least they're getting acknowledged. Also there's a reason why Wikipedia exist, so people can research on that movie. That's what I do when I watch any movie, I go to Wikipedia to do research on that movie I watch (along with IMDB). What do you want Japan/Asia to do to get recognition from the US for remaking American films. Do you want Japan to remake The Godfather with Sonny Chiba as Vito Corelone, do you want South Korea to remake Scarface with Lee Byung Hun as Tony Montana and have Park Chan-wook to direct the remake. Is that enough for US to get attention on the Asia remaking US film scene? Not only that, I believe more Asian will get recognized at some point, we've already seen Asian stars like Lee-Byung Hun and couple of Korean stars getting recognition from Hollywood, so that's nice to see. I remember Robert Deniro praise the Hong Kong superstar, Tony Leung-Chu Wai. It's not only movie, but also in music beside Far East Movement and Utada Hikaru we never had Asian-American pop star that rank alongside Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift. I never seen any other Asian-American artists beside Far East Movement topping the Billboard 200. But given the popularity of K-pop around the world, hopefully that would change because it's about time Asian get their shining light in the music world. However, I don't like it when people bash Hollywood for remaking Asian films and somehow give Asian remake of Hollywood film a free pass from criticism and bashing, it's downright ignorant, shows favoritism, double standard, and Asian supremacy if a person was to do that. |
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