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Top 20 Countries in Global Music Sales for the Year 2009 (US Dollars)

Money Amount | Previous Year Comparison | Global Market Share | Package | Online Music Distribution | Rights Revenue

01. USA | $4.632 billion | ▲11% | 27% | $2.557 billion | $2.005 billion | $70 million
02. Japan | $4.050 billion | ▲11% | 24% | $2.991 billion | $972 million | $87 million
03. UK | $1.574 billion | 2% | 9% | $1.156 billion | $295 million | $123 million
04. Germany | $1.533 billion | ▲3% | 9% | $1.298 billion | $156 million | $80 million
05. France | $948 million | ▲3% | 6% | $733 million | $132 million | $83 million
06. Canada | $396 million | ▲7% | 2% | $297 million | $81 million | $19 million
07. Australia | $382 million | 4% | 2% | $299 million | $69 million | $14 million
08. The Netherlands | $265 million | ▲3% | 2% | $200 million | $17 million | $49 million
09. Italy | $252 million | ▲17% | 1% | $191 million | $34 million | $27 million
10. Spain | $246 million | ▲14% | 1% | $178 million | $32 million | $36 million
11. Brazil | $204 million | 1% | 1% | $165 million | $27 million | $13 million
12. Switzerland | $178 million | ▲7% | 1% | $149 million | $22 million | $7 million
13. Belgium | $167 million | ▲7% | 1% | $131 million | $15 million | $21 million
14. Austria | $145 million |▲1% | 1% | $116 million | $15 million | $14 million
15. South Korea | $145 million | 10% | 1% | $65 million | $80 million | -
16. Sweden | $138 million | 12% | 1% | $105 million | $20 million | $13 million
17. India | $128 million | 2% | 1% | $64 million | $40 million | $25 million
18. Mexico | $121 million | 0% | 1% | $102 million | $18 million | $1 million
19. Russia | $120 million | ▲29% | 1% | $99 million | $22 million | -
20. Denmark | $118 million | ▲1% | 1% | $ 78 million | $26 million | $14 million
Others | $1.285 billion | ▲8% | 8% | $962 million | $962 million | $232 million | $92 million
Total | $17.026 billion | ▲7% | 100% | $11.934 billion | $4.307 billion | $785 million

1 billion (US) = one thousand million

▲ denotes decrease in amount for the year of 2009 from the previous year of 2008

URL: http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2010/201006.pdf

According to music sales data and statistics from the IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry), the United States (27% global market share) and Japan (24% global market share) together captured over 50% of the world music market in 2009.

For the Year 2009, No. 2 Japan (4.050 billion US dollars), which has a (shrinking) total population of less than 130 million people, closely trailed No. 1 US (4.632 billion US dollars), which presently has a (growing) total population of over 310 million people, in total global music sales.

Although my post regarding the largest music markets in the world on the Anime News Network Music Forum dates back around two and a half years ago, I do not believe the situation has changed much at all since then

Maybe it is not a good thing or not, but...

The Japanese music market was (and probably still is) much, much larger than the South Korean music market. Apparently, Japanese popular music acts do not have to look outside their domestic market like their South Korean counterparts do to make money.

That said, Japan's industry was doing around US$5B in sales at it's peak, sales have already dropped 50% in the last 15 years, and with the population now declining they're only going to drop faster unless Japan can start exporting it's music.

-t

- What do you think you can gain through K-pop’s launch into the European market?

Kim: The size of the European market is estimated to be 7 trillion Won. It’s larger than the US (6 trillion), Japan (4 trillion), and China (1 trillion). But our goal is not to be ranked on the European music chart and to sell albums. We aim to attract people’s attention to the Asian music market through K-pop boom in the Us and Europe and to build the ground for Korea’s future as an Asian Hollywood.

Siegel Clyne wrote:

Although my post regarding the largest music markets in the world on the Anime News Network Music Forum dates back around two and a half years ago, I do not believe the situation has changed much at all since then Maybe it is not a good thing or not, but... The Japanese music market was (and probably still is) much, much larger than the South Korean music market. Apparently, Japanese popular music acts do not have to look outside their domestic market like their South Korean counterparts do to make money.

Well I got bad news, it may not be safe for J-pop to stay in Japan. Here's why according to Billboard:

Japan's 2011 physical music sales drops

Japan's digital music sales also decline

Even Tempest backed this up on another thread involving J-music industry:

Tempest wrote:

That said, Japan's industry was doing around US$5B in sales at it's peak, sales have already dropped 50% in the last 15 years, and with the population now declining they're only going to drop faster unless Japan can start exporting it's music. -t

Japan's population decline is getting worse according to recent articles:

UPI-Japan's population decline highlighted

Telegraph-Japan's population suffers biggest fall in history

Japan last year has passed a restrictive law that effect music download, this could be the one that could kill their industry. This is why it's not safe for J-pop to stay in Japan, because of the low sales and population decline. It doesn't help that the CDs in Japan are expensive and Japan's restrictive law on music downloading is hurting their music industry. Now people are speculating that J-pop should take lesson from the Korean to export J-pop outside of Japan/Asia and try to emulate their Korean counterpart. So in other word, the Japanese music market being #2 may end up like South Korea music market because of the population decline and the low sales in Japan. Because of the Hallyu/Korean Wave, a lot of people have asked: Is Japan is losing it's cool?

I just got this article today, now because of the weak Yen, The K-pop in Japan is hurting the K-pop profit back home. I think it's about time K-pop should try entering the European music market, K-pop is getting more mainstream in Western Europe (UK, France, Germany, Italy) after Gangnam Style. I read it that the European music market has more money then US and Japan combined accoring to a interview I read back in 2011.

Quote:

- What do you think you can gain through K-pop’s launch into the European market? Kim: The size of the European market is estimated to be 7 trillion Won. It’s larger than the US (6 trillion), Japan (4 trillion), and China (1 trillion). But our goal is not to be ranked on the European music chart and to sell albums. We aim to attract people’s attention to the Asian music market through K-pop boom in the Us and Europe and to build the ground for Korea’s future as an Asian Hollywood.

Again, this interview was done back in 2011, now because the Yen is now weak and not as good as it was a year ago, K-pop artists may try to enter the US and European market (I think Europe would be easier because K-pop is getting more popular and mainstream in those area).

So it's not safe for J-pop artists to stay in Japan because of several reason:

-population decline
-low sales (that include CDs being ridiculously expensive, law restricitng music download)
-weak yen

Also here's another reason: if K-pop artists get more recognized, and mainstream attention around the world it'll drive J-pop artists/groups jealous to the point they don't want to be kept in Japan/Asia anymore, they may want to do concerts outside of Asia to have J-pop competing with K-pop. If I was a J-pop artists and I saw my Korean counterpart get more fame and recognition on a worldwide scale, I would be jealous too.

Because of the hallyu/Korean Wave, economists have said that South Korea's economy could overtake Japan.

If Japan doesn't export J-pop, the industry is doom and giving K-pop being the first Asian pop to get popular outside of Asia, other Asian countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong could try to make their music replicate the same success like K-pop did, so if Japan doesn't push J-pop globally another Asian country will and J-pop will be overshadowed.

The sky is falling. The sky is falling. The sky is falling.

I recall some people feared that Korean animation would overtake Japanese animation a few years ago.

Never happened.

Kpop is the least of Japan's worries.

A low, declining birth rate and a rapidly aging, shrinking population, on the other hand, are real problems for Japan, which, if they don't solve, will result in the decline and fall of that country.

All civilizations decline and fall. There has never been an exception to this immutable law of history. Japan will decline (it already is declining) and fall, South Korea will decline and fall, Europe is declining and falling, and the United States is declining and falling.

You cannot stop the inevitable. Delaying is the best one can do.

Low, declining birth rates is not only a problem in Japan, but in South Korea, China, Europe, the United States... in fact, most countries of the world have this problem to one extent or another.

Unless you import them from other countries and lands, where does a country like Japan get enough young people to generate income to support the growing elderly population?

Money doesn't grow on trees.

Who'll build and maintain the infrastructure of a nation? Senior citizens? Robots?

Japan last year has passed a restrictive law that effect music download, this could be the one that could kill their industry. This is why it's not safe for J-pop to stay in Japan, because of the low sales and population decline. It doesn't help that the CDs in Japan are expensive and Japan's restrictive law on music downloading is hurting their music industry.

mdo7 wrote:

Japan last year has passed a restrictive law that effect music download, this could be the one that could kill their industry. This is why it's not safe for J-pop to stay in Japan, because of the low sales and population decline. It doesn't help that the CDs in Japan are expensive and Japan's restrictive law on music downloading is hurting their music industry.

Have you actually read the article? I'm pretty sure that when it says "knowingly downloading copyrighted music and video in Japan became punishable by up to two years in prison and a 2 million yen (US$25,000) penalty" it is not including music you have actually paid for.

Siegel Clyne wrote:

The sky is falling. The sky is falling. The sky is falling. I recall some people feared that Korean animation would overtake Japanese animation a few years ago. Never happened. Kpop is the least of Japan's worries. A low, declining birth rate and a rapidly aging, shrinking population, on the other hand, are real problems for Japan, which, if they don't solve, will result in the decline and fall of that country. All civilizations decline and fall. There has never been an exception to this immutable law of history. Japan will decline (it already is declining) and fall, South Korea will decline and fall, Europe is declining and falling, and the United States is declining and falling. You cannot stop the inevitable. Delaying is the best one can do. Low, declining birth rates is not only a problem in Japan, but in South Korea, China, Europe, the United States... in fact, most countries of the world have this problem to one extent or another. Unless you import them from other countries and lands, where does a country like Japan get enough young people to generate income to support the growing elderly population? Money doesn't grow on trees. Who'll build and maintain the infrastructure of a nation? Senior citizens? Robots?

I don't expect Korean animation to overtake Japanese animation, Korean animation is not near good as Japanese animation. I know there are population decline happen in all country, but Japan's population decline is the worse I've seen from reading a lot of articles and being a fan of anime and Japan's pop culture for 7 years, I never seen a population decline this bad and Japan is the one I know with this problem. Do you know the Herbivore man phenomenon? Yes that is one of the factor leading to population decline.

I don't think you're getting the full picture, population decline is one of the factor for J-pop not safe to stay in Japan/Asia. The weak yen and the low sales in Japan is also another factor for J-pop not safe to stay in Japan/Asia. J-pop will have no choice but to be exported outside of Japan and Asia. Because K-pop is getting more mainstream around the world, if this continue then J-pop artists/groups could get jealous that they don't want to be kept in Japan anymore they want to perform outside of Japan and Asia and rival their Korean counterpart. Beside, since the K-pop popularity, a lot of people have asked: Why isn't Japan giving J-pop the same push like Korea is doing for K-pop?? Why is there less J-pop on Itunes when there is a huge catalog of K-pop on Itunes?? Also why is there more K-pop concerts outside of Asia and J-pop concerts outside of Asia is rare? Actually, a lot of anime fans and J-pop fans have criticize Japan for not giving J-pop the same push like Korea did for K-pop. Do you not want Nana Mizuki to perform in the US, Europe? Do you not want AKB48 to do a world tour like Girls Generation is doing right now?

As I said, it's inevitable that J-pop will end up getting globalized like their Korean counterpart because it's not safe for J-pop to stay in Japan/Asia.

Well, I don't care much for AKB48's music - I actually prefer the music of Girls Generation - so I'm not a good person to ask about pushing AKB48 out to the rest of the world.

Japan's low, declining birth rate and aging (and shrinking) population problems are bad, bad, bad - and the same goes for its neighbors South Korea, China, Singapore, etc., in Asia, and for other countries around the world, from Spain, Italy and Germany in Europe to the United States, Mexico and Brazil in the Americas.

Siegel Clyne wrote:

Well, I don't care much for AKB48's music - I actually prefer the music of Girls Generation - so I'm not a good person to ask about pushing AKB48 out to the rest of the world. Japan's low, declining birth rate and aging (and shrinking) population problems are bad, bad, bad - and the same goes for its neighbors South Korea, China, Singapore, etc., in Asia, and for other countries around the world, from Spain, Italy and Germany in Europe to the United States, Mexico and Brazil in the Americas.

uh, the others are not horrible, but Japan is. Didn't you even read the Telegraph article? Last time I check USA population has went up a bit, South Korea population may have went down but not at a dangerous rate like Japan is facing, I expect South Korea population to go up a bit. Germany maybe down but they don't have the herbivore man phenomenon. I can't say much for Mexico and Brazil but I don't think the population decline is that low.

But for goodness sake, Japan's population decline is really that bad more then any other.

The projections are staggering: By 2060 Germany’s population is expected to shrink by 20 percent to approximately 65 million people. With a birth rate of only 1.36 children per woman in 2009, Germany will also witness the size of its working-age population plunge 27 percent to roughly 36 million people. How can Europe’s largest economy maintain future economic growth when its overall population is shrinking and its elderly population is supported by a smaller working-age population? Many analysts say it will become increasingly difficult to maintain the current welfare state. And so far, the current policies to reverse this trend have been rather ineffective.

mdo7 wrote:

Siegel Clyne wrote: Well, I don't care much for AKB48's music - I actually prefer the music of Girls Generation - so I'm not a good person to ask about pushing AKB48 out to the rest of the world. Japan's low, declining birth rate and aging (and shrinking) population problems are bad, bad, bad - and the same goes for its neighbors South Korea, China, Singapore, etc., in Asia, and for other countries around the world, from Spain, Italy and Germany in Europe to the United States, Mexico and Brazil in the Americas. uh, the others are not horrible, but Japan is. Didn't you even read the Telegraph article? Last time I check USA population has went up a bit, South Korea population may have went down but not at a dangerous rate like Japan is facing, I expect South Korea population to go up a bit. Germany maybe down but they don't have the herbivore man phenomenon. I can't say much for Mexico and Brazil but I don't think the population decline is that low. But for goodness sake, Japan's population decline is really that bad more then any other.

Japan may be the worst, but it is a problem most nations face. And their governments worry about it. For good reason.

Look at the articles worrying about the low, declining birth rate of Germany.

Germany's Aging Population by Doug Murray, November 1, 2012

Quote:

The projections are staggering: By 2060 Germany’s population is expected to shrink by 20 percent to approximately 65 million people. With a birth rate of only 1.36 children per woman in 2009, Germany will also witness the size of its working-age population plunge 27 percent to roughly 36 million people. How can Europe’s largest economy maintain future economic growth when its overall population is shrinking and its elderly population is supported by a smaller working-age population? Many analysts say it will become increasingly difficult to maintain the current welfare state. And so far, the current policies to reverse this trend have been rather ineffective.

Siegel Clyne wrote:

mdo7 wrote: Siegel Clyne wrote: Well, I don't care much for AKB48's music - I actually prefer the music of Girls Generation - so I'm not a good person to ask about pushing AKB48 out to the rest of the world. Japan's low, declining birth rate and aging (and shrinking) population problems are bad, bad, bad - and the same goes for its neighbors South Korea, China, Singapore, etc., in Asia, and for other countries around the world, from Spain, Italy and Germany in Europe to the United States, Mexico and Brazil in the Americas. uh, the others are not horrible, but Japan is. Didn't you even read the Telegraph article? Last time I check USA population has went up a bit, South Korea population may have went down but not at a dangerous rate like Japan is facing, I expect South Korea population to go up a bit. Germany maybe down but they don't have the herbivore man phenomenon. I can't say much for Mexico and Brazil but I don't think the population decline is that low. But for goodness sake, Japan's population decline is really that bad more then any other. Japan may be the worst, but it is a problem most nations face. And their governments worry about it. For good reason. Look at the articles worrying about the low, declining birth rate of Germany. Germany's Aging Population by Doug Murray, November 1, 2012 Quote: The projections are staggering: By 2060 Germany’s population is expected to shrink by 20 percent to approximately 65 million people. With a birth rate of only 1.36 children per woman in 2009, Germany will also witness the size of its working-age population plunge 27 percent to roughly 36 million people. How can Europe’s largest economy maintain future economic growth when its overall population is shrinking and its elderly population is supported by a smaller working-age population? Many analysts say it will become increasingly difficult to maintain the current welfare state. And so far, the current policies to reverse this trend have been rather ineffective.

OK Germany's population decline is bad, I agree, that is not good. So both Japan and Germany is in a state of limbo with their population decline. Germany's going to need to ease on their immigration, and put more strong effort into combating population decline. Other then that, Italy seems yeah not good, but not as bad as Germany or Japan.

But on topic: Japan's music market can't rely on local sales, international sales both in Asia and outside of Asia can save the Japanese music industry. I mean K-pop has been relied on sales outside of Korea and outside of Asia. So J-pop can do this too, beside K-pop has allowed other Asian pop music to also find popularity outside of Asia. I'm hoping after Nana Mizuki's performance in Taiwan, we could maybe see other J-pop doing more overseas performances outside of Japan and outside of Asia because K-pop are having their best year as in concert performances around the world.