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Juno016
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:54 pm
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Saw the movie. It was... awesome. I don't think everything will agree (it makes a drastic change for the rest of the story and the "twists" are quite predictable, if not intentionally predictable), but I definitely enjoyed how different it was from the previous two rebuild movies. Oh, and Shinji is a bit more on the weaker side this time around, but considering everything that mattered to him simply disappeared and his existence was no longer necessary to anyone but Kaworu, I don't blame him. =P
If anything stood out in the movie well, it was the directing of the scenes themselves. They used a little more 3D animation this time around, but aside from the beginning bit, the later scenes didn't stand out as badly to me as the 2nd film's scenes did. At least, everything with the evas in action was smooth and well-done, in my opinion.
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Ambimunch
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:23 pm
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Oh boy I do hope out of the millions of people at least one brave asian superman got us a juicy, chocolate covered cam-rip~
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Juno016
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:06 am
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Ambimunch wrote: | Oh boy I do hope out of the millions of people at least one brave asian superman got us a juicy, chocolate covered cam-rip~ |
...Not likely going to happen, considering the Japanese policy of filming at the theater.
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jl07045
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:44 am
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Juno016 wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Oh boy I do hope out of the millions of people at least one brave asian superman got us a juicy, chocolate covered cam-rip~ |
...Not likely going to happen, considering the Japanese policy of filming at the theater. |
There was a camrip when the second one came out. And there's a 13 minute long camrip of this one as well. And an audiorip has been available since day 2. But those were probably taken by those dirty gaijins.
Anyway, the reception this far has been mixed to positive as far as I've seen. Lots of people definitely aren't digging how different it is and I've seen a lot of criticism about how Shinji-centric at the expense of everyone else it is. I guess those are mostly eva fans, because as we seee from the numbers, general public likes it well enough. Looks like it's on its way to be the best-selling non-Ghibli animation.
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Juno016
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:50 am
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jl07045 wrote: | There was a camrip when the second one came out. And there's a 13 minute long camrip of this one as well. And an audiorip has been available since day 2. But those were probably taken by those dirty gaijins.
Anyway, the reception this far has been mixed to positive as far as I've seen. Lots of people definitely aren't digging how different it is and I've seen a lot of criticism about how Shinji-centric at the expense of everyone else it is. I guess those are mostly eva fans, because as we seee from the numbers, general public likes it well enough. Looks like it's on its way to be the best-selling non-Ghibli animation. |
They're much more strict this time around. Audio rips are another thing, since I see them on occasion (they're harder to catch), but videos are definitely not very likely. Even 13 minutes is a bit much. The security is a lot worse now during these kinds of movies.
But yeah. It's different in some ways, but not in others. Mainly, the setting is different, but the general story is very parallel to the original. Though the focus on Shinji at the expense of everyone else is kinda not true when you consider Kaworu as a major part of the film--Shinji's only comfort in this radically different setting. Oh, and another thing I see people hating is the total twist that nothing Shinji did at the end of the second movie ended up working out. He just screwed over all humanity in the immediate vicinity is all. But I gotta hand it to the creators. They were brave to make such a radical change to the setting, considering it means that the innocent female fanservice characters are less prominent and now can't be serviced for their youth anymore. Not that it'll stop the fanservice. =P
But yeah. I noticed something. The first movie seemed to focus on Asuka and Shinji's relationship. Then the second movie focused on Rei and Shinji's relationship. The third movie focused on Kaworu and Shinji. What will the fourth movie be about? I don't see anymore Masato and Shinji stuffs because of the setting of the third movie. =P
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jl07045
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:55 am
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Juno016 wrote: | Oh, and another thing I see people hating is the total twist that nothing Shinji did at the end of the second movie ended up working out. He just screwed over all humanity in the immediate vicinity is all. |
This whole situation is so amusing to me. People are criticizing Eva for changing the scenery, but at the same time are suprised and disappointed when it holds true to its themes and crushes Shinji's egocentricity twice during the same movie.
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Juno016
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:08 am
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jl07045 wrote: | This whole situation is so amusing to me. People are criticizing Eva for changing the scenery, but at the same time are suprised and disappointed when it holds true to its themes and crushes Shinji's egocentricity twice during the same movie. |
Pretty much how I feel. I'm not sure if Anno really plans to change the end message of the series, but so far, everything that has happened is very fitting and supports its themes in new ways. So I don't see the reason to complain other than "I didn't like it as much this time." I have yet to see it defeat the purpose of having done anything it's done so far, like people are claiming. I'm wondering if any of these people have actually seen the movie yet or if they're just talking about it by the events that have been spoiled online...
If that were the case, then I might agree that it sounds a bit ridiculous. But I saw it and that's not how it ended up being executed. If you haven't seen the movie, you're just letting preconceptions get to you and they will, surely, affect how you enjoy the movie. =P
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Ambimunch
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:25 am
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Juno016 wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Oh boy I do hope out of the millions of people at least one brave asian superman got us a juicy, chocolate covered cam-rip~ |
...Not likely going to happen, considering the Japanese policy of filming at the theater. |
No matter how strict the security is, someone will get away with it (considering things like iPhones blew up in the last 4 years and everyone seems to have one). Besides we have bits and pieces of the film already online. Its just a matter of time, there will be a camrip eventually
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Juno016
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:21 pm
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Ambimunch wrote: | No matter how strict the security is, someone will get away with it (considering things like iPhones blew up in the last 4 years and everyone seems to have one). Besides we have bits and pieces of the film already online. Its just a matter of time, there will be a camrip eventually |
iPhones got popular in Japan? Since when? =P
Well, we'll see. A few minutes is not too hard, but filming the entire thing without getting caught would be quite the feat, since they even encourage your neighbor audience members to tattle on you now. And... well, if you get caught... Good luck with the rest of your life! They've raised the penalties in the last two years immensely, so people are far less willing to make camrips now than when 2.0 came out, let alone spread them on the internet, which would give them even worse consequences to deal with, thanks to the new law that raised even the penalties for that to ridiculous levels...
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Ambimunch
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:45 pm
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Juno016 wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | No matter how strict the security is, someone will get away with it (considering things like iPhones blew up in the last 4 years and everyone seems to have one). Besides we have bits and pieces of the film already online. Its just a matter of time, there will be a camrip eventually |
iPhones got popular in Japan? Since when? =P
Well, we'll see. A few minutes is not too hard, but filming the entire thing without getting caught would be quite the feat, since they even encourage your neighbor audience members to tattle on you now. And... well, if you get caught... Good luck with the rest of your life! They've raised the penalties in the last two years immensely, so people are far less willing to make camrips now than when 2.0 came out, let alone spread them on the internet, which would give them even worse consequences to deal with, thanks to the new law that raised even the penalties for that to ridiculous levels... |
But having a lot of views on youtube is worth the risk, right aha
jk jk
Though I still think people will find their way around it. Think about it, technically speaking illegally pirating movies and selling them/or posting them online could result in jail time if you get caught, yet stuff still gets posted online on a regular basis. Sexual assault and murder happen daily (even though it is also illegal)...my point is that the human nature simply does not obey the rules perfectly, there are always people who take risks and break them. Besides rules are there to be broken, right~
I stand by my initial response that it is just a matter of time
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jl07045
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:06 pm
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You know, at this point every tiny plot detail has been spoilered and analyzed and the audiorip is nearly translated. There's nothing left to see except visuals that an ugly-ass and probably out of focus camrip won't do justice to anyway. You'll survive those 8 or so months till BDs come out.
In any way, if what Juno said ir correct about the severity of laws, I'm highly doubtful that someone will risk his butt for the sake of needy gaijin fanboys.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:56 pm
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Ambimunch wrote: | No matter how strict the security is, someone will get away with it (considering things like iPhones blew up in the last 4 years and everyone seems to have one). Besides we have bits and pieces of the film already online. Its just a matter of time, there will be a camrip eventually |
Seems like the case for theatrical releases trumping piracy in comparison to other distribution methods is strong. If you release any disc, it's immediately ripped and the ISO is available on the net. Anything on TV is immediately capped and either raws or transport streams are distributed. What do you get from movies? Best case scenario is someone sneaks in a good camcorder, sets it up dead center with a tripod, and the theater must be completely empty except for the person filming. Any change or failure of those requirements means terrible image or audio quality, or other audience members disturbing the experience. You can definitely do this with ultrawide Hollywood releases, some shows will empty out to no people if you go just a few days after release. That's always how I plan my cinema trips, so I'm more or less alone in a theater. But given that Evangelion screenings [or any anime film] will always be packed due to low distribution, and security cares... camrips gonna be difficult for wanted titles from here on.
I agree with the preceding comment, you'll only hinder your experience by watching camrips.
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Sydney2K
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:32 pm
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[quote="Juno016]The first movie seemed to focus on Asuka and Shinji's relationship.[/quote]
Really? Asuka doesn't appear in the first movie...
Widya Santoso
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Juno016
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:37 pm
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Sydney2K wrote: | [quote="Juno016]The first movie seemed to focus on Asuka and Shinji's relationship. |
Really? Asuka doesn't appear in the first movie...
Widya Santoso[/quote]
...Derp. I knew that.
Scratch what I said then. Maybe the last one will be about Shinji and Asuka? That seems kinda plausible now, thanks to that ending... though it'll be interesting to see how Asuka might get over seeming like she hates Shinji's guts right now.
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