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NEWS: Monsuno to Premiere on Canada's YTV on May 5




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GhostShell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:50 pm Reply with quote
What...wait...new anime on YTV?! Colour me surprised. Miss the good old days with the Friday night anime blocks.
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:58 pm Reply with quote
You know, all these crappy toy anime are starting to blend together. My kingdom for a Digimon-like that's dubbed and released over here.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:21 am Reply with quote
Conan-san wrote:
You know, all these crappy toy anime are starting to blend together. My kingdom for a Digimon-like that's dubbed and released over here.


Monsuno isn't an anime, though, it's one of those American imitations like Chaotic was.

My current favorite toy anime not currently airing in the US is Danball Senki, Cardfight Vanguard: Asia Circuit, and Beyblade Zero-G. Though I think if they do come over, it's pretty much guaranteed they'd get horrible dubs like all kids anime do, so I doubt you'd be interested in those.
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Primus



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:05 pm Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
You know, all these crappy toy anime are starting to blend together. My kingdom for a Digimon-like that's dubbed and released over here.


Monsuno isn't an anime, though, it's one of those American imitations like Chaotic was.

My current favorite toy anime not currently airing in the US is Danball Senki, Cardfight Vanguard: Asia Circuit, and Beyblade Zero-G. Though I think if they do come over, it's pretty much guaranteed they'd get horrible dubs like all kids anime do, so I doubt you'd be interested in those.


The show's animated in Japan. Do you not consider Bakugan, and Spider Riders anime series?

Anyways, all of the series you've listed are in the process of being dubbed in North America. LBX is being dubbed in Calgary, and actually has a separate English dub produced in Hong Kong for Animax. The original Cardfight Vanguard series was dubbed for TMS Entertainment once again in Calgary by the Blue Water crew. Lastly, Beyblade Zero-G is another co-pro with Nelvana, there's no chance that isn't coming over.

As for Digimon, there exists a pilot dub for Xros Wars. I don't know if that pilot dub has been picked up for an actual full dub though.
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11G4GUNOT



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:18 pm Reply with quote
go YTV go
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TitanXL



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Primus wrote:
The show's animated in Japan. Do you not consider Bakugan, and Spider Riders anime series?


Batman the Animated Series was animated in Japan as well, but it's still a US cartoon. If you look at Monsuno's production credits, you get a very big "Created by Jeremy Padawer and Jared Wolfson" and a bunch of American names in the credits; specifically Man of Action, who created the Ben 10 series for Cartoon Network. Japan may have worked on the animation, which isn't uncommon actually, but it's still an American show. Bakugan was actually created by the Japanese for a Japanese audience. Never saw Spider Riders so no comment.

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Anyways, all of the series you've listed are in the process of being dubbed in North America. LBX is being dubbed in Calgary, and actually has a separate English dub produced in Hong Kong for Animax. The original Cardfight Vanguard series was dubbed for TMS Entertainment once again in Calgary by the Blue Water crew. Lastly, Beyblade Zero-G is another co-pro with Nelvana, there's no chance that isn't coming over.


I'm aware there's the Asia-English dubs for Vanguard and Danball Senki, but I was speaking more actual North American dubs.
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Primus



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:43 am Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
Batman the Animated Series was animated in Japan as well, but it's still a US cartoon. If you look at Monsuno's production credits, you get a very big "Created by Jeremy Padawer and Jared Wolfson" and a bunch of American names in the credits; specifically Man of Action, who created the Ben 10 series for Cartoon Network. Japan may have worked on the animation, which isn't uncommon actually, but it's still an American show. Bakugan was actually created by the Japanese for a Japanese audience. Never saw Spider Riders so no comment.


Nope:

"Ronnen Harary, the CEO of Spin Master, built Bakugan out of the relatively simple idea of a marble that transforms into an action figure when rolled over a magnetic card. They designed a storyline, a history and a cast of characters, and made alliances in Japan."

Spin Master is a Toronto based toy company. There was actually an article very early on in the brand's history that discussed how it came from a product pitch (which was from either Philadelphia or New York) which Spin Master polished and got partners. However, given the explosion of the franchise I can't find that article Sad It was from either 2007 or 2008, and I want to say it was a Canadian site.

For what it's worth, Dentsu (a Japanese company) produces Monsuno, and it's expected the show will air on TV Tokyo some time in the future.

TitanXL wrote:
I'm aware there's the Asia-English dubs for Vanguard and Danball Senki, but I was speaking more actual North American dubs.


I can't confirm if LBX or Vanguard will air in North America, but both of those series have/will have North American dubs. Calgary is in Alberta, a province of Canada, which is a country of North America. Wink The Cardfight Vanguard dub airing in Asia right now is the Blue Water Calgary produced dub. However, the LBX dub airing in Asia is indeed the Hong Kong one. The Blue Water dub is actually going to be dubbing 26 episodes of LBX W too so it's probably not done yet.

With all that said, given both series have North American dubs I can see them airing somewhere here. Bushiroad has recently started getting Vanguard cards into North American stores like Wal-Mart, and Level-5, Bandai, and the same Dentsu behind Monsuno are planning a big worldwide push for LBX soon.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:30 am Reply with quote
I'm not sure if a random editorial by a journalist who knows nothing of the franchise is a credible source to that information. How do we know he didn't just get confused and assumed the North American company were the ones who made it, like all those kids on Funimation's Youtube channel who think they actually make those shows they have trailers for rather than just license and dub them? Or any news articles which credits 4Kids as the makers of Yu-Gi-Oh and what have you?

All I know is I can see Japanese executive producers in Bakugan's credits and it being created and headed by Japanese people. Not to mention if the show did originate in America, it's very curious why it's so heavily different/edited between versions, to the point of being completely different in certain aspects (Julie is completely different in the dub than in the original, not to mention some characters get gender changes, to say nothing of the death and sexual content/violence that got edited out)

Meanwhile, Monsuno not only has American writers, producers, composers, and etcetera, the first, and only, episode I saw, had random guys with goofy looking laser guns the whole thing defitely felt more in line with Man of Actions other stuff like Ben 10 than it did Digimon or what have you) If it ever does air in Japan, I doubt it'll be much different (The first Bakugan series aired in Japan first, though it didn't really take off)

Worst case scenario, America made the Bakugan toys and Japan handled the anime itself and did all the work for that, or they helped funded it. But even that would be weird since the designs are by Japanese people as well, and wouldn't the designs be based on the toys? Or vice versa?
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twinklestarex



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:37 am Reply with quote
Primus wrote:
TitanXL wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
You know, all these crappy toy anime are starting to blend together. My kingdom for a Digimon-like that's dubbed and released over here.


Monsuno isn't an anime, though, it's one of those American imitations like Chaotic was.

My current favorite toy anime not currently airing in the US is Danball Senki, Cardfight Vanguard: Asia Circuit, and Beyblade Zero-G. Though I think if they do come over, it's pretty much guaranteed they'd get horrible dubs like all kids anime do, so I doubt you'd be interested in those.


The show's animated in Japan. Do you not consider Bakugan, and Spider Riders anime series?

Anyways, all of the series you've listed are in the process of being dubbed in North America. LBX is being dubbed in Calgary, and actually has a separate English dub produced in Hong Kong for Animax. The original Cardfight Vanguard series was dubbed for TMS Entertainment once again in Calgary by the Blue Water crew. Lastly, Beyblade Zero-G is another co-pro with Nelvana, there's no chance that isn't coming over.

As for Digimon, there exists a pilot dub for Xros Wars. I don't know if that pilot dub has been picked up for an actual full dub though.


Where can I find a video of that pilot English dub version of Digimon Xros Wars?

The English dub version of LBX made in HK is awful.Kinda similar to that English dub version of Inazuma Eleven.
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dragonrider_cody



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:56 am Reply with quote
Bakugan I would consider anime, as not only does TMS produce the show, but their parent Sega is also on the production committee. It's not unusual for shows like this to be international cooperatives. However, the show was never especially successful in Japan and only received subsequent seasons due to strong toy sales in the US and Canada.
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