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NEWS: Megaupload Site Shut Down Partly Due to Fruits Basket Anime


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Spotlesseden



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:04 pm Reply with quote
fileserve, filesonic ... are next.
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Beatdigga



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:07 pm Reply with quote
Charging money for premium downloading accounts left them wide open.

There are dozens of Megaupload clones though.
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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:09 pm Reply with quote
it's a joke. everytime I see an anime on megaupload/megavideo it's gone within hours or days ..tops, usually. RARELY will I see one that has lasted longer. If it gets reported, they would delete it. I don't know about all this profit they supposedly made FROM this stuff (as far as i know only subscribers and ads were making them any money..which is for the site in general and not for any specific file). Just a joke to me, with the information I have. I hope there's a lot more going on here otherwise just based on what we really know so far..youtube is just as bad. I've seen files on there since the site was launched that are STILL on there and such.
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yu3lora



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:12 pm Reply with quote
OMG..
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1945113



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:13 pm Reply with quote
This is bullcrap, megaupload is my 3rd favorite site to download from, if they dare go after 4share I will rage...but omg IF THEY DARE TOUCH MEDIAFIRE- I WILL GIVE THEM THE FREAKIN' PUNISHMENT OF THEIR LIFETIME X_X!.

~but I could careless about fileserve...because ofc I don't wanna pay for that...and it sucks imo.
@Kougeru - within hours or days o_o? I've seen things that have been on for years on megavideo- megaupload I can see them being taken down quickly but not megavideo.
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Razzuel



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:15 pm Reply with quote
How does a Hong Kong based company/website get shut down by the FBI and indicted by a grand jury in Virginia?
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Mr. sickVisionz



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
..youtube is just as bad.

No.

ArsTechnica wrote:
... But the government asserts that Megaupload merely wanted the veneer of legitimacy, while its employees knew full well that the site's main use was to distribute infringing content. Indeed, the government points to numerous internal e-mails and chat logs from employees showing that they were aware of copyrighted material on the site and even shared it with each other. Because of this, the government says that the site does not qualify for a “safe harbor” of the kind that protected YouTube from Viacom's $1 billion lawsuit.

For instance, the “abuse tool” allegedly does not remove the actual file being complained about by a rightsholder. Instead, it only removes a specific Web address linked to that file—but there might be hundreds of such addresses for popular content.

In addition, the government contends that everything about the site has been doctored to make it look more legitimate than it is. The “Top 100” download list does not “actually portray the most popular downloads,” say prosecutors, and they claim that Megaupload purposely offers no site-wide search engine as a way of concealing what people are storing and sharing through the site.

Megaupload employees apparently knew how the site was being used. When making payments through its “uploader rewards” program, employees sometimes looked through the material in those accounts first. "10+ Full popular DVD rips (split files), a few small porn movies, some software with keygenerators (warez)," said one of these notes. (The DMCA does not provide a "safe harbor" to sites who have actual knowledge of infringing material and do nothing about it.)

In a 2008 chat, one employee noted that "we have a funny business... modern days [sic] pirates Smile," to which the reply was, "we're not pirates, we're just providing shipping servies [sic] to pirates Smile."

Employees send each other e-mails saying things like, “can u pls get me some links to the series called ‘Seinfeld’ from MU [Megaupload]," since some employees did have access to a private internal search engine.

Employees even allegedly uploaded content themselves, such as a BBC Earth episode uploaded in 2008.

Other messages appear to indicate that employees knew how important copyrighted content was to their business. Content owners had a specific number of takedown requests they could make each day; in 2009, for instance, Time Warner was allowed to use the abuse tool to remove 2,500 links per day. When the company requested an increase, one employee suggested that "we can afford to be cooperative at current growth levels"— implying that if growth had not been so robust, takedowns should be limited. Kim Dotcom approved an increase to 5,000 takedowns a day.

Employees also had access to analytics. One report showed that a specific linking site had “produce[d] 164,214 visits to Megaupload for a download of the copyrighted CD/DVD burning software package Nero Suite 10. The software package had the suggested retail price of $99.” The government's conclusion: Megaupload knew what was happening and did little to stop it.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:22 pm Reply with quote
This was only a matter of time Megaupload, I'd say that is fairly correct.

Up next, bit torrent.
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Glory Questor



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:23 pm Reply with quote
Razzuel wrote:
How does a Hong Kong based company/website get shut down by the FBI and indicted by a grand jury in Virginia?


Because of this little bit of reasoning (the original news story is here if you want to read it for yourself):

"Many question whether O'Dwyer should face trial in the US, considering that he's never been to the states and TVShack didn't use US servers. The US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, however, maintains that any internet domain ending in .com or .net is fair game for US authorities as the company that provides those particular suffixes falls under US jurisdiction."

Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:25 pm Reply with quote
@Mr. sickVisionz

Did you read the rest of article? There were some oddities about the indictment that Ars Technica noted.

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Yet the indictment seems odd in some ways. When Viacom made many of the same charges against YouTube, it didn't go to the government and try to get Eric Schmidt or Chad Hurley arrested.

It's also full of strange non-sequiturs, such as the charge that "on or about November 10, 2011, a member of the Mega Conspiracy made a transfer of $185,000 to further an advertising campaign for Megaupload.com involved a musical recording and a video." So?

The money probably paid for a video that infuriated the RIAA by including major artists who support Megaupload. Megaupload later filed claims in US courts, trying to save the video, which it says was entirely legal, from takedown requests. (The RIAA has long said the site operators "thumb their noses at international laws, all while pocketing significant advertising revenues from trafficking in free, unlicensed copyrighted materials.")

Given that the site was already using US courts to file actions; given that the government had Megaupload e-mails talking about using US lawyers to file cases against other "pirate" sites; given that the site did at least take down content and built an abuse tool; and given that big-name artists support the site, the severity of the government's reaction is surprising.


Yah, their are parts of the indictment that, if true, don't look that great for megaupload... but I'm still hesitant to trust the government in this case until further details are revealed, and megapload has a chance to tell their side of the story.
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firedragon54738



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:28 pm Reply with quote
Well that one down and 500 more just popped up
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:28 pm Reply with quote
1945113 wrote:
This is bullcrap, megaupload is my 3rd favorite site to download from, if they dare go after 4share I will rage...but omg IF THEY DARE TOUCH MEDIAFIRE- I WILL GIVE THEM THE FREAKIN' PUNISHMENT OF THEIR LIFETIME X_X!.


Quick, someone alert the Department of Justice.
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Psycho_Despair



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:30 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
1945113 wrote:
This is bullcrap, megaupload is my 3rd favorite site to download from, if they dare go after 4share I will rage...but omg IF THEY DARE TOUCH MEDIAFIRE- I WILL GIVE THEM THE FREAKIN' PUNISHMENT OF THEIR LIFETIME X_X!.


Quick, someone alert the Department of Justice.


I am right on it!! *dialing phone*
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Melanchthon



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:38 pm Reply with quote
Megaupload was a scummy site, and I'm not particularly upset to see it go. However, it made a fatal mistake. It had servers located in America, which put it under American jurisdiction. Should have located them in Germany, where rapidshare has been found to be legal, twice. Of course, mega is already back up and running, with a new domain licensed in Belize (Stupidly, though, the servers are still in America). And fileserve and filesonic are somewhat more safe because nobody know who actually owns them, and therefore they can't be sued like this. (Though they could still be ICE'd)


Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
Up next, bit torrent.

So I looked up non sequitur in the dictionary, and it had your post next to it.
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Fletcher1991



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:42 pm Reply with quote
This is a big shot to anime streaming sites, the illegal ones of course. Since like most of them (I'd say like 60-90%) of them mostly use megavideo as their video player. Guess it was bound to happen sooner or later lol.
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