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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:54 pm
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.......brix where fukkin shat
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J3N0V4
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:40 pm
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So we're looking at about 2 hours before the first episode is up...... Oh Desire!!!!!
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Crisha
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:54 pm
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So, I'm curious. We're seeing a lot of activity this season already for Crunchyroll, Sentai, and even NISA. Where's Funimation in all of this? Wasn't Funico created to see what series are dub-worthy? If I remember correctly, their announcements came later last season, so I'm guessing that's why we haven't heard anything yet.
Also, I'm kind of wondering if NISA's and Sentai's decision to license early (even before the series air) is a result of Funico - in order to get series they're potentially interested in, they need to license early to prevent Funico from picking it up for streaming (with Funi, therefore, getting first dibs if they continue with a DVD/blu-ray license).
Feel free to correct me on any misconceptions.
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:56 pm
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Funico was a couple episodes late for most of their stuff last season. Which makes it kinda pointless to view hits to see which will get a dub... why would people wait and be a few episodes behind on their streams? Unless you hope your fanbase are all white knights or something and refuse to use fansubs, its not a very viable business strategy.
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agila61
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:32 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: | Funico was a couple episodes late for most of their stuff last season. Which makes it kinda pointless to view hits to see which will get a dub... why would people wait and be a few episodes behind on their streams? Unless you hope your fanbase are all white knights or something and refuse to use fansubs, its not a very viable business strategy. |
That's not just White Knights. There's also people who work for a living and can't be bothered to chase down fansubs for series that are going to be readily available in a week or two.
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:49 pm
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agila61 wrote: |
RyanSaotome wrote: | Funico was a couple episodes late for most of their stuff last season. Which makes it kinda pointless to view hits to see which will get a dub... why would people wait and be a few episodes behind on their streams? Unless you hope your fanbase are all white knights or something and refuse to use fansubs, its not a very viable business strategy. |
That's not just White Knights. There's also people who work for a living and can't be bothered to chase down fansubs for series that are going to be readily available in a week or two. |
You can easily set up a torrent to download something by itself the minute its posted. Granted, its not something I'd expect people who watch streams to know how to do, but the excuse that its tough to find fansubs or waste time downloading them isn't hard to refute.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:01 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: | Funico was a couple episodes late for most of their stuff last season. Which makes it kinda pointless to view hits to see which will get a dub... why would people wait and be a few episodes behind on their streams? Unless you hope your fanbase are all white knights or something and refuse to use fansubs, its not a very viable business strategy. |
last season is kind of different. CR is one week behind on most of their releases too. Example, Fate Zero.
people said CR will have problem because Funico. lol CR gets most of the good series this season.
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The King of Harts
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:09 pm
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agila61 wrote: | That's not just White Knights. There's also people who work for a living and can't be bothered to chase down fansubs for series that are going to be readily available in a week or two. |
I want you type [Enter Show of Choice Here] episode 1 into Google and come back here to tell me how incredibly hard it is to find fansubs. Go on, I'll wait the .03 seconds it takes.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:20 pm
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The King of Harts wrote: |
agila61 wrote: | That's not just White Knights. There's also people who work for a living and can't be bothered to chase down fansubs for series that are going to be readily available in a week or two. |
I want you type [Enter Show of Choice Here] episode 1 into Google and come back here to tell me how incredibly hard it is to find fansubs. Go on, I'll wait the .03 seconds it takes. |
agila61 is not wrong. You can find it easily, doesn't mean anything.
Alot of people really don't want to bothered with torrent and different type of codex, ect. They would rather pay $5 a month and watch them on stream.
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:21 pm
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I'd argue that its EASIER to find fansubs than legal streams. For example, a rip of the Shana 3 - Episode 12 NicoNico stream had about 5000 downloads, and the actual stream itself had less than 250 views.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:35 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: | I'd argue that its EASIER to find fansubs than legal streams. For example, a rip of the Shana 3 - Episode 12 NicoNico stream had about 5000 downloads, and the actual stream itself had less than 250 views. |
those data doesn't mean anything. lol Fansubs are easy to find only if you know it about it. Average people, not Otaku(people who watch alot of anime are consider Otaku in Japan) can't find them. I can name an anime like "hayate no gotoku", random people can't find the torrent. IF you google it, CR website will probably come up before torrents.
that's not easier. people just don't want to support it because companies can't catch you and hard to punish you.
Just like this show and people who post here. They know they can watch it free one week late at CR, most people will probably not watch it on CR. Also CR paid members still download it even after they watched on stream.
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dragonrider_cody
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:35 pm
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willag wrote: |
Also, I'm kind of wondering if NISA's and Sentai's decision to license early (even before the series air) is a result of Funico - in order to get series they're potentially interested in, they need to license early to prevent Funico from picking it up for streaming (with Funi, therefore, getting first dibs if they continue with a DVD/blu-ray license).
Feel free to correct me on any misconceptions. |
I don't about NISA, but Sentai has been licensing shows prior to their airing for quite some time as had ADV before them. They've been simulcasts for nearly two years now. They also stated back in their early days that they had a few licenses they had picked up prior to their airing. I always assumed Tears to Tiara was one as Sentai's DVD sets bowed within days of the Japanese releases.
As for the Zero news, I would be happier if there were a way to legally watch seasons two and three. Maybe CR will nab those too, but until then I'm not skipping ahead to season 4. Nice try though.
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njprogfan
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:24 pm
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dragonrider_cody wrote: | As for the Zero news, I would be happier if there were a way to legally watch seasons two and three. Maybe CR will nab those too, but until then I'm not skipping ahead to season 4. Nice try though. |
I'm with you. I have the first season box and would love to see the 2nd and 3rd legally, so I'll be passing on Season 4 until....
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TheAncientOne
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:26 pm
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dragonrider_cody wrote: |
As for the Zero news, I would be happier if there were a way to legally watch seasons two and three. Maybe CR will nab those too, but until then I'm not skipping ahead to season 4. Nice try though. |
It is going to be quite a feat if they do. CR has nabbed previous seasons before, but AFAIK, they never needed to grab more than one. For ZnT they would need to grab 3, which would not be an insignificant addition to their library.
Frankly, CR getting this was almost as big a (pleasant) surprise as them getting Nisemonogatari.
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