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INTEREST: U.S. Supreme Court: 1st Amendment Protects Videogames


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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:02 pm Reply with quote
This is what political pundits expected. Laughing
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This guy's two cents.
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Jaymie



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:27 pm Reply with quote
This is actually a really important ruling for Anime/Manga fans.

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'the basic principles of freedom of speech . . . do not vary' with a new and different communication medium

So this will probably squash any chances of Anime/Manga being censored in America. It's too bad the case didn't involve pornographic content, because it would be nice to get a supreme court ruling on that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:32 pm Reply with quote
True but mainstream anime and manga were in no danger to begin with, when you look at what passes for daytime and prime time television. It was the pornographic stuff that people were worried about, and if something pornographic is considered obscene it is automatically unprotected by the first amendment. This ruling does not change the unprotected status of obscenity.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:35 pm Reply with quote
Jaymie: You have to contest anime and manga-related cases in court before you can determine it applies to them. And sometimes SCOTUS likes to interpret its own rulings different in different, but similar, situations.
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teh*darkness



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:36 pm Reply with quote
It's nice to see this law get struck down.
While I agree with the idea behind the law, trying to create a government-regulated body for videogames was a bad idea. At least most respectable game stores stick to the ESRB rating system when it comes to sales, similar to how theatres abide by the MPAA ratings system for selling tickets to R rated movies.
A win for gamers everywhere.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:08 pm Reply with quote
Jaymie wrote:
So this will probably squash any chances of Anime/Manga being censored in America. It's too bad the case didn't involve pornographic content, because it would be nice to get a supreme court ruling on that.


If it's any solace:

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Unlike depictions of "sexual conduct," Scalia said there is no tradition in the United States of restricting children's access to depictions of violence, pointing out the violence in the original depiction of many popular children's fairy tales like Hansel and Gretel, Cinderella and Snow White.

Hansel and Gretel kill their captor by baking her in an oven, Cinderella's evil stepsisters have their eyes pecked out by doves and the evil queen in Snow White is forced to wear red hot slippers and dance until she is dead, Scalia said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:18 pm Reply with quote
so games are finally protected under free speech??.... Well it's about damn time something good news pops up.
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victor viper



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:21 pm Reply with quote
I'm always glad when the First Amendment manages to fend off an assault. Unfortunately, all too often I don't think citizens (and elected officials) are capable of differentiating things they don't like from things that should be deemed illegal. Let's go through the first paragraph of the Constitution and see whether this proposed law met muster.

Did this law serve to...

establish justice? Not really.
insure domestic tranquility? Unlikely.
provide for the common defense? No way.
promote the general welfare? Hardly.
secure the blessings of liberty? Just the opposite, in fact.

Nannying isn't governing.
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Sunday Silence



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Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
so games are finally protected under free speech??.... Well it's about damn time something good news pops up.


Now if the US gaming market stops pumping out so many FPS clones......I can't tell the difference!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:23 pm Reply with quote
Not that this is a bad thing, but it still further proof that the Supreme Court is is a smorgasbord of conceit and corruption that will always swing favor to the corporations.

After all, the Walmart fiasco still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:23 pm Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
so games are finally protected under free speech??.... Well it's about damn time something good news pops up.


Now if the US gaming market stops pumping out so many FPS clones......I can't tell the difference!!


i feel the same about my eroges. oh wait those are all the same lol but hmm some fps games are decent but there needs to be more of story not just " map packs galore" but this is off subject lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:25 pm Reply with quote
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
Sunday Silence wrote:
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
so games are finally protected under free speech??.... Well it's about damn time something good news pops up.


Now if the US gaming market stops pumping out so many FPS clones......I can't tell the difference!!


i feel the same about my eroges. oh wait those are all the same lol but hmm some fps games are decent but there needs to be more of story not just " map packs galore" but this is off subject lol.

First-person shooters are killing the Western side, visual novels hurting the Japanese development.

It's all the same. Lazy people too gutless to innovate.
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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:51 pm Reply with quote
I don't get lawmakers sometimes. First off, this law had already been shot down in several other states before, so what did California think would be so special this time? Also, this law is unnecessary because the Video-game industry already regulates itself. Most retailers won't sell M-rated games to minors as well as simply won't carry pornographic games at all. Waste. Of. Time.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:51 pm Reply with quote
John Casey wrote:
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
Sunday Silence wrote:
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
so games are finally protected under free speech??.... Well it's about damn time something good news pops up.


Now if the US gaming market stops pumping out so many FPS clones......I can't tell the difference!!


i feel the same about my eroges. oh wait those are all the same lol but hmm some fps games are decent but there needs to be more of story not just " map packs galore" but this is off subject lol.

First-person shooters are killing the Western side, visual novels hurting the Japanese development.

It's all the same. Lazy people too gutless to innovate.


true enough but there are still some golden ones through all of the shit that is produced. Moving on from this .. hmm well all I can say though it's still up to the stores on an individual bases to sell games or not to minors "this was part of the case" so I think each store should be responsible for it's own guidelines/content not just one big rule of law that says NO!
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