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NEWS: Umamusume Cinderella Gray Anime Streams on YouTube, Prime Video in U.S., Canada, U.K.




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Glordit



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:20 am Reply with quote
Another anime killed by Remow. Nice.
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Kiwi93



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:00 am Reply with quote
Glordit wrote:
Another anime killed by Remow. Nice.


Yea it sucks that they keep getting all these good shows, I’m surprised CR didn’t get this since they have all the other Umamusume shows.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:46 pm Reply with quote
Why the heck didn't Crunchyroll get this?! I was looking forward to this but all I have is Crunchyroll, HiDive and Hulu. I'm not getting another subscription for one show, lol
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Glordit



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JustMonika wrote:
Why the heck didn't Crunchyroll get this?! I was looking forward to this but all I have is Crunchyroll, HiDive and Hulu. I'm not getting another subscription for one show, lol


You might be able to watch it on YouTube (If not a free VPN can fix that) but then it will probably look bad at times due to how starved YouTube makes their videos.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:53 pm Reply with quote
Glad to see another streaming competitor after Sony consolidated a bunch of them.

Who is backing REMOW? They gotta have some serious money to license this.

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From their website:
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Capital
6.19billion yen (including capital reserve)


That's.... 42.5M USD currently. That's a good chunk of cash to throw at licenses.

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Shareholders
ACA IP1 Investment Limited Liability Partnership
ACA Partners Pte Ltd
ADK Emotions Inc.
AID Partners Urban Development Company Limited
AMUSE INC.
DeNA Co., Ltd.
FUJI MEDIA HOLDINGS, INC.
Hakuhodo DY music & pictures Inc.
Kansai Television Co. Ltd.
MBS MEDIA HOLDINGS, INC.
NADA HOLDINGS CORP.
Nihon Eiga Broadcasting Corp.
Shueisha Inc.
SHUEISHA DeNA Projects Co., Ltd.
Shochiku Co., Ltd.
Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions Co., Ltd.
Skybound Japan KK
SUMITOMO CORPORATION
TBS HOLDINGS, INC.
TOEI COMPANY, LTD.
TOEI ANIMATION CO., LTD.
TV Asahi Holdings Corporation
TV TOKYO Corporation
TWM Venture Co., Ltd.
REMOW Stock Ownership
Will Rock Co., Ltd.

Plenty of familiar names here. Group of interested companies banding together to take on the Sonyroll machine.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:14 pm Reply with quote
tsog wrote:

Who is backing REMOW? They gotta have some serious money to license this.
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From their website:
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Capital
6.19billion yen (including capital reserve)


That's.... 42.5M USD currently. That's a good chunk of cash to throw at licenses.

It's not that much, I mean back in 2019 Sentai received $30 million dollars from the Cool Japan (also consider inflation), now look at them and how they are today.

tsog wrote:
Glad to see another streaming competitor after Sony consolidated a bunch of them.

Who is backing REMOW? They gotta have some serious money to license this.
Plenty of familiar names here. Group of interested companies banding together to take on the Sonyroll machine.

A lot of those still does business with Sony, it's never a good idea to place all your eggs in one basket.
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el_morris wrote:

It's not that much, I mean back in 2019 Sentai received $30 million dollars from the Cool Japan (also consider inflation), now look at them and how they are today.

Sentai has to run its own streaming service; AFAICT REMOW doesn't, just put the episodes on YouTube or sublicense to Amazon Prime/Tubi/etc. REMOW can dedicate more of its capital to licensing vs running servers. They probably don't even spend on advertising right now either, and taking losses while trying to gain mindshare. Eventually they'll need to figure out how to profit.

el_morris wrote:

A lot of those still does business with Sony, it's never a good idea to place all your eggs in one basket.

Of course. Given Sony owns several studios plus music, gaming, and IP (and that rumored Kadokawa acquisition) you can't really make/broadcast anime in Japan without having to deal with Sony or its subsidiaries.

But with this they are hedging in case Sony drives a hard bargain in favor of its platform (AKA Crunchyroll).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:10 pm Reply with quote
tsog wrote:

Sentai has to run its own streaming service; AFAICT REMOW doesn't, just put the episodes on YouTube or sublicense to Amazon Prime/Tubi/etc. REMOW can dedicate more of its capital to licensing vs running servers.

Remow owns AnimeOnegai, a streaming platform which serves to Latin America (you may never heard of it but I know that awful and buggy service as I live in México) and all of their series goes to that site and for other territories they sub-license it to another platforms, that's why CR doesn't do business with them anymore.
tsog wrote:

Of course. Given Sony owns several studios plus music, gaming, and IP (and that rumored Kadokawa acquisition) you can't really make/broadcast anime in Japan without having to deal with Sony or its subsidiaries.
But with this they are hedging in case Sony drives a hard bargain in favor of its platform (AKA Crunchyroll).

There's just one company covering itself and it's Shougakukan (with the support of Sumitomo Corp.) which is understandable, that company holds a lot of IP's but has not a structure of studios or music label like Kadokawa to produce an anime.
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Glordit wrote:
JustMonika wrote:
Why the heck didn't Crunchyroll get this?! I was looking forward to this but all I have is Crunchyroll, HiDive and Hulu. I'm not getting another subscription for one show, lol


You might be able to watch it on YouTube (If not a free VPN can fix that) but then it will probably look bad at times due to how starved YouTube makes their videos.


This isn't a YouTube issue. YouTube even RECOMMENDS 10 Mbps for 1080p30 fps which is 2-8 times higher than other streaming services. For example, Hidive still has some episodes as low as 4 - 6 Mbps average. It's not really acceptable. YouTube is objectively better.
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Glordit



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:41 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
Glordit wrote:
JustMonika wrote:
Why the heck didn't Crunchyroll get this?! I was looking forward to this but all I have is Crunchyroll, HiDive and Hulu. I'm not getting another subscription for one show, lol


You might be able to watch it on YouTube (If not a free VPN can fix that) but then it will probably look bad at times due to how starved YouTube makes their videos.


This isn't a YouTube issue. YouTube even RECOMMENDS 10 Mbps for 1080p30 fps which is 2-8 times higher than other streaming services. For example, Hidive still has some episodes as low as 4 - 6 Mbps average. It's not really acceptable. YouTube is objectively better.


10Mbps is only around 1.3MB/s it's really nothing at all. In comparison Crunchyroll uses around 60Mbps (8MB/s) for a 1080p stream.

What YouTube recommends and what they show you are two different things. They love using VP9 which can crush a lot of detail because of how it handles noise and grain, which some studio's use.

I tried watching Your Forma but it had blocking the instant there was any high contrasting colours and heavy motion. I gave up and pirated a copy from Prime Video.

This is supposed to be 1080p AV1:



I checked the stream data and stream number 399 is 97Mb total size.

The premium stream isn't much better
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