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Covnam
Joined: 31 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:50 pm
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Been enjoying the comedy so far. Hopefully I'll still enjoy it when the other shoe drops.
Helck just running over his mount had me cracking up
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moozooh
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:12 am
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I think the second episode is paced much better than the first, but that actually makes me worry because this adaptation is stated to be two-cours. With the breakneck pacing of episode 1 I'd become convinced it was going to adapt all of the 12 volumes in 24/25 episodes, but now that it seems to have settled into its real pace (roughly 3 episodes per manga volume, or 1/3 of a volume per episode), it will only have time to adapt 8, leaving 1/3 of the manga hanging. That would actually be the better outcome, because the other options are going with this reasonable pace for a while but then skipping or mutilating later content to fit all of it in, a la The Promised Neverland. I didn't care about TPN too much because the manga exposed the weaknesses of the writing shortly after the first major arc, but ruining Helck would be a crime.
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Panino Manino
Joined: 28 Jan 2018
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:11 pm
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It's unfortunate that the production values are cheap, despite this I'm betting that this will end being watched and enjoyed by a lot more people than Frieren.
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:52 am
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While I am enjoying this as a decent comedy, I am a fan of the straight man reactions that Vermilio does, Japanese voice actresses for some reason are really good at that. I am curious as to what the show is to become, because I got the impression from all the excitement around the title that it is more than just a comedy.
The production values might be pretty bare bones, it is very static and most shots are very basic, at least it isn't covered by a thick layer of post processing effects and 3DCG.
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Sven Viking
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:39 am
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While it may not be an expensive production, imho they’ve been doing a good job with the old-fashioned 2D anime shortcuts and the end result is effective.
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Shay Guy
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:45 am
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Quote: | I wasn't expecting the exposition section of this episode to be about power scaling and I genuinely grew at the idea. |
…Did you, now.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:00 pm
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Shay Guy wrote: |
Quote: | I wasn't expecting the exposition section of this episode to be about power scaling and I genuinely grew at the idea. |
…Did you, now. |
Several inches, in fact.
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yuna49
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:18 pm
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With the transition at the end of the current episode, Helck survived being dropped for another week.
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Animegomaniac
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:16 am
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I thought Heroes was meant as a position you're born to... which thanks to the angels has an interesting parallel between the Demon Lords like Vermilio and the position demon lord all the weaker demons are competing for...
I'm stopping it there because there are some definite politics involved, not that I think it's an accident or a wrong reading but the story hasn't give me enough information to say which is more Fascist and which is more Democratic... though entire human villages emptied of people would seem to imply a few things.
"If everyone's a Hero then no one's a Hero." That's the Incredibles but there's also Animal Farm... "All Heroes are equal, but some Heroes are more equal than others."
Where are we going with this?
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moozooh
Joined: 30 Sep 2022
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:27 am
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Animegomaniac wrote: | Where are we going with this? |
Honestly, I think you might've read a little too deeply into this. From what I remember of the manga, it doesn't raise this juxtaposition nor condemns any specific political ideology at any point; rather, it focuses on the individual and their choices and how the people around influence those choices. You'll find that the vast majority of the characters in Helck have deep convictions and a strong sense of camaraderie. They care a lot about what they hold dear.
Helck in particular is a very complex character by fantasy standards, so while he is the protagonist of the story as a whole, it is Vermilio who provides the audience viewpoint to expose this complexity. I already mentioned this before in the seasonal preview thread, but their mutual dynamic is one of my favorites in all of manga. I don't know how far this adaptation will ultimately go (episode 4 adapted to the start of chapter 13, so it's still on track to only finish two thirds of the manga), and it certainly lacks in presentation compared to the original, but it's worth sticking around to see that relationship develop.
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:32 am
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I thought Edil was female at first, it's not as common now for women to voice male characters of that age group now in Anime. Is Helck similar to Gintama, in the sense that it moves between comedy and more serious fare? Or does it just move away from comedy as the story progresses?
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Sven Viking
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:14 am
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MarshalBanana wrote: | Is Helck similar to Gintama, in the sense that it moves between comedy and more serious fare? Or does it just move away from comedy as the story progresses? |
Not much of a spoiler, but just answering the question: It does become more serious but there continues to be some comedy though most sections.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:01 am
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This has been pretty entertaining so far. I think it needs a bit more meat to it to really keep my interest, but its goofy banter and central joke still have me grinning often enough.
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Sven Viking
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:20 am
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NeverConvex wrote: | This has been pretty entertaining so far. I think it needs a bit more meat to it to really keep my interest, but its goofy banter and central joke still have me grinning often enough. |
I’d recommend continuing.
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Emerje
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:21 pm
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If anything happens to that adorable fluffy bird creature I swear...!
Emerje
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