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INTEREST: Veteran Voice Actor Mamoru Miyano Talks About the Struggles He Faces Finding Work


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-Matthew-



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:18 pm Reply with quote
I agree with him. Sadly many new voice actors receive jobs nowadays.
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Bubin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:41 pm Reply with quote
He is still doing better than most seiyu in industry.

I don't know what it takes to get a role, especially a popular one, other than popularity (and maybe youthful voice), but from what I learned, it is a big mistake to be picky.

A good voice actor (Takehito Koyasu is best example) will first, and foremost aim to get as much presence in different anime as possible, regardless of role, simply to get into anime viewers ears, and to become familiar, popular, and stay relevant.

And if some big role comes once in a while, or more of them, great.

That all being said Miyano already has more than few super popular characters that he voiced in his career so far.
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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:46 pm Reply with quote
I think I saw a video with another high profile seiyuu...I think it was Yuuki Kaji? Or maybe Yoshitsugu Matsuoka? About how many roles they audition for and don't get.

Although it is interesting to learn the source for Miyano's larger-than-life persona.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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Miyano got his breakout role at the age of 19 in the anime Wolf's Rain.

So he's 39? (looks at image, searches for current images on the web, compares) Very well preserved. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:27 pm Reply with quote
I rarely hear Miyano Mamoru, Tomokazu Sugita and Ono Daisuke anymore. I constantly hear Takehito Koyasu and Kamiya Hiroshi though.

I don't know if that has to do with their range or the fact that they have acted in such big roles that they can't be heard easily in others. Specifically in Miyano Mamoru's case, he is best in unhinged roles (Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul was amazing) and sounds a bit bored and monotone when he's forced to play the staple ikemen male lead. He gives me the impression that if he doesn't like or care about a character or their story, his lack of enthusiasm is showing. But when he does get what he likes he's iconic.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:30 pm Reply with quote
From what I understand, younger actors are much cheaper than the veterans. It's unfortunate because I miss hearing the older actors.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:36 pm Reply with quote
Kirki wrote:
I rarely hear Miyano Mamoru, Tomokazu Sugita and Ono Daisuke anymore. I constantly hear Takehito Koyasu and Kamiya Hiroshi though.

I don't know if that has to do with their range or the fact that they have acted in such big roles that they can't be heard easily in others. Specifically in Miyano Mamoru's case, he is best in unhinged roles (Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul was amazing) and sounds a bit bored and monotone when he's forced to play the staple ikemen male lead. He gives me the impression that if he doesn't like or care about a character or their story, his lack of enthusiasm is showing. But when he does get what he likes he's iconic.


I can't say much for Miyano Mamoru or Ono Daisuke...but Sugita has been AROUND a lot lately. I don't know if you keep up any recent animes but he has pretty much being doing roles for at least 2 or 3 animes per a season.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:48 pm Reply with quote
Bubin wrote:


A good voice actor (Takehito Koyasu is best example) will first, and foremost aim to get as much presence in different anime as possible, regardless of role, simply to get into anime viewers ears, and to become familiar, popular, and stay relevant.


And your source for that is....? I mean, saying that Koyasu only has as much roles as he has just for the sake of keeping relevance within the industry just sounds like an assumption you're making.
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Bubin



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TheSleepyMonkey wrote:

And your source for that is....? I mean, saying that Koyasu only has as much roles as he has just for the sake of keeping relevance within the industry just sounds like an assumption you're making.
Doesn't matter, I know why I said that.

Just ignore my post if you disagree.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:55 pm Reply with quote
mrsatan wrote:
From what I understand, younger actors are much cheaper than the veterans.


Yeah, that is probably a factor too. Some shows would want Miyano to be on it, but the fees may be too high. VA like Miyano tend to have a stable fan base that follows them around regardless of what show they are in. Hence why some shows only cast famous VAs because they can guarantee an audience size aka revenue stream.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:21 pm Reply with quote
Not making enough as Reinhard von Lohengramm? I'm sure there'll be another season of DNT soon enough. But I guess a lot of VAs need numerous jobs to make ends meet.
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FiendHunter



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:44 pm Reply with quote
Bubin wrote:
TheSleepyMonkey wrote:

And your source for that is....? I mean, saying that Koyasu only has as much roles as he has just for the sake of keeping relevance within the industry just sounds like an assumption you're making.
Doesn't matter, I know why I said that.

Just ignore my post if you disagree.


I coincide to the fact Koyasu Takehito has a large variety of roles, so I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm very interested in knowing where he talked about what you mention. Is there an interview we can read...? A video, free talk track from a drama CD, radio show, anything...?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:51 am Reply with quote
HueyLion wrote:
Kirki wrote:
I rarely hear Miyano Mamoru, Tomokazu Sugita and Ono Daisuke anymore. I constantly hear Takehito Koyasu and Kamiya Hiroshi though.

I don't know if that has to do with their range or the fact that they have acted in such big roles that they can't be heard easily in others. Specifically in Miyano Mamoru's case, he is best in unhinged roles (Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul was amazing) and sounds a bit bored and monotone when he's forced to play the staple ikemen male lead. He gives me the impression that if he doesn't like or care about a character or their story, his lack of enthusiasm is showing. But when he does get what he likes he's iconic.


I can't say much for Miyano Mamoru or Ono Daisuke...but Sugita has been AROUND a lot lately. I don't know if you keep up any recent animes but he has pretty much being doing roles for at least 2 or 3 animes per a season.

I agree. I don't notice Miyano so much in anime recently. Also yes, Sugita is practically EVERYWHERE now. My favorite Gin-chan is very popular! It is great!
mrsatan wrote:
From what I understand, younger actors are much cheaper than the veterans. It's unfortunate because I miss hearing the older actors.

I agree. Young and newbie voice actors are cheaper. But, of course, it doesn't mean that they are not professional. Many of them, even if it is their first role, do this job brilliantly.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:26 am Reply with quote
FiendHunter wrote:

I coincide to the fact Koyasu Takehito has a large variety of roles, so I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm very interested in knowing where he talked about what you mention. Is there an interview we can read...? A video, free talk track from a drama CD, radio show, anything...?
Okay, I'll answer, although I'm just wasting time, since you, or anyone else won't be satisfied with what I say, since it is purely subjective.

First of all, I didn't say that Koyasu himself said anything, but simply that he is the best example of a voice actor who instead of aiming at a few bigger roles, instead (at least that is how it seems to me) accepts whatever he gets, small roles, big roles, doesn't matter, as long as he gets work, and that also make him ever present in anime to this day, memorable, relevant, etc.

He is one of the few seiyu who stayed super popular in anime industry where once you start being old you just don't matter all that much.

I was into anime since 2000s, read many different interviews from seiyu, not every one of them was about not being able to find work later in life, but they still in some way helped form my overall opinion.

Of course, there is a lot more I could talk about, such as payment, but I'm too lazy, and honestly, I'm just not very good at explaining myself online.
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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:50 am Reply with quote
I don't think it's even just male seiyuu. It feels like you only occasionally hear Nana Mizuki, Yukari Tamura, or Yui Horie in any major or prominent roles compared to before.
Kirki wrote:
I rarely hear Miyano Mamoru, Tomokazu Sugita and Ono Daisuke anymore. I constantly hear Takehito Koyasu and Kamiya Hiroshi though.

I don't know if that has to do with their range or the fact that they have acted in such big roles that they can't be heard easily in others. Specifically in Miyano Mamoru's case, he is best in unhinged roles (Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul was amazing) and sounds a bit bored and monotone when he's forced to play the staple ikemen male lead. He gives me the impression that if he doesn't like or care about a character or their story, his lack of enthusiasm is showing. But when he does get what he likes he's iconic.

To me Miyano always delivers 100%, I guess maybe it just depends on the execution of the character?
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