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jr240483
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:54 pm
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Quote: | In the end, Souma's idea of a secret alliance is so revolutionary that Jeanne all but demands he come home and marry her sister. |
THAT was not the reason she did that. it was because that souma is using their tech and adapt them similarily to how he lived in our world of science!
like for example, using the broadcast gemstones as entertainment and informing the public, but it was his idea of using the frequency to their individual gemstones to where he and the saint of the empire can exclusively commune in private and says its commonplace in our world is what set jeanne off and made her suggest that he marries her sister for she WANTED to see what kind of empire those two would have been able to create if he had accepted!
regardless, it may be slow now but from those trailers and opening showed (the amadonia princess basically joining souma's harem as well as the death of a certain character), its going to be quite intersting later on in the series!
and we can thank J.C STAFF for a season 2 for if it was produced by kadokawa animation, its more likely this series would have gotten the "BUY THE SOURCE MATERIALS" type of ending at the end of ep 12-13 ala trinity seven and other series that got produced by kadokawa that unfortunately ended up getting the dreaded "READ THE BOOKS, KIDS!" endings since their light novels aka the source materials arent one of those insanely popular light novels ala the irregular at magic high school , that time i was reincarnated into a slime or jobless reincarnation to warrant a new season!
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:21 pm
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Basically two episodes of Souma wrecking Julius and making him look like a fool at every turn. I kind of want to see a political ruler that can actually give Souma a good run for his money, because Julius will probably fall apart while he's in charge.
Jeanne is really growing on me (and her sister definitely seems interested in Souma). I wonder where the story with the Demon Lord will go.
I love Liscia's jealous moments, getting antsy with Jeanne wanting to steal Souma away or Aisha getting competitive.
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Picky33
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:56 am
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Reviewer wrote: | This episode illustrates how painfully tidy everything in Realist Hero feels. |
Do you enjoy isekai shows where the the protaganist is OP and everything they do requires almost zero effort like so many of the isekai animes out there? we all enjoy a struggle but a believable struggle is hard. Honestly I don't think the whole premise of this season has reveled itself.
Reviewer wrote: | It's hard to talk about this series without harping on the same issues over and over again, and I hate doing that. |
Then don't, Take an objective view, we get it this is not your cup of tea, find another way to talk about it, compare it to something else. Compare to examples in history. you started when you talked about Pluto , another example could have been the enlighten period or how Galileo was banished from the church for his discoveries/beliefs. I believe the author of the light novel must have study the history of political science and then they decided to pull a Zipang or "The Final Countdown" and says here's what might happen if you go back in time with all the current knowledge. Political Science is not genre for a shonen anime.
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b-dragon
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:54 am
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It seems less that the author studied PoliSci, and more like he had to do a book report on The Prince, but maybe that's just me.
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jr240483
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:24 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Basically two episodes of Souma wrecking Julius and making him look like a fool at every turn. I kind of want to see a political ruler that can actually give Souma a good run for his money, because Julius will probably fall apart while he's in charge.
Jeanne is really growing on me (and her sister definitely seems interested in Souma). I wonder where the story with the Demon Lord will go.
I love Liscia's jealous moments, getting antsy with Jeanne wanting to steal Souma away or Aisha getting competitive. |
i have a theory about that.
the way souma acted when hearing the demon lord's name (diavolri if i remember correctly) makes me think he have heard it before but was too tired to think when.
Picky33 wrote: |
Reviewer wrote: | This episode illustrates how painfully tidy everything in Realist Hero feels. |
Do you enjoy isekai shows where the the protaganist is OP and everything they do requires almost zero effort like so many of the isekai animes out there? we all enjoy a struggle but a believable struggle is hard. Honestly I don't think the whole premise of this season has reveled itself.
Reviewer wrote: | It's hard to talk about this series without harping on the same issues over and over again, and I hate doing that. |
Then don't, Take an objective view, we get it this is not your cup of tea, find another way to talk about it, compare it to something else. Compare to examples in history. you started when you talked about Pluto , another example could have been the enlighten period or how Galileo was banished from the church for his discoveries/beliefs. I believe the author of the light novel must have study the history of political science and then they decided to pull a Zipang or "The Final Countdown" and says here's what might happen if you go back in time with all the current knowledge. Political Science is not genre for a shonen anime. |
i wouldnt go that far.
there is a big difference between realist hero & zipang!
especially considering that when it comes to the styles of their respected authors, its more than clear that they were more influenced by different things. hero's author feels like he was influenced by spice and wolf & bookworm from how the story is skowly developing wheras zipang's author is clearly influenced by childhood IRL stuff!
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Cam0
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:49 pm
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This 2nd cour just continues to confirm my thoughts on this show. The writing priorities of this show are the same as stuff like the currently airing The Strongest Sage with The Weakest Crest or other stuff like Isekai Smartphone. Everything this show does is to make the main character look cool. The smart people know how cool and smart Souma is so they want to ally with him. The dumb people like the prince are the ones that oppose our protag and refuse to see how cool he is. The entire setting itself seems to have elements made of stupid so that our protag can point it out and look smart for doing so.
However The Strongest Sage thingy and Isekai Smartphone seem to know how making a story purely about "look at how awesome our protag is" is kinda silly and not fit for a story to be taken seriously so they just take a lighthearted tone and don't try to overthink it. OP protag solving problems without effort makes for a bit lame entertainment but it is what it is, good for some brainless lighthearted fun. Realist Hero tries to be like a political thriller but just mixed with an Light Novel OP protagonist. You know, it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Without the thrill, all this political intrigue seems like a wasted effort.
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jr240483
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:57 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Basically two episodes of Souma wrecking Julius and making him look like a fool at every turn. I kind of want to see a political ruler that can actually give Souma a good run for his money, because Julius will probably fall apart while he's in charge.
Jeanne is really growing on me (and her sister definitely seems interested in Souma). I wonder where the story with the Demon Lord will go.
I love Liscia's jealous moments, getting antsy with Jeanne wanting to steal Souma away or Aisha getting competitive. |
well concerning julius, if you thought that was a bad day for him, according to those light novel readers, his sister got all of her merchant friends to trigger a civil war and forced him into exile, then outsmarted souma by getting him to marry her as a mean for him to anex all of amadonia
but considering that those so called LN readers are from MAL, youtube and 4chan, take what i said with a massive grain of salt!
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MFrontier
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 am
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Souma's talk with Georg shows how far people will go for their ideas, and how much they're willing to sacrifice, although I can't help but think that Castor and Carla really did screw themselves over for nothing.
Liscia must be really internalizing how much Carmine's fate is eating away at her.
Jeanne and Hakuya seem pretty chummy.
I wasn't expecting a commendation ceremony to turn into Aisha's dad pimping his daughter out as Souma's next queen or Juna making her play, but Liscia is at least ready to approve sister wives that she knows as long as she is the undisputed first wife/queen. Too bad Juna has to wait until she's Nana Mizuki level to get married to Souma in public.
A secret cabal conspiring against Souma? I don't see that ending well.
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sadoldguy
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:05 am
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Light novel reader: Oh, the fun has barely started!
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Zefram
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:57 pm
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Cam0 wrote: | This 2nd cour just continues to confirm my thoughts on this show. The writing priorities of this show are the same as stuff like the currently airing The Strongest Sage with The Weakest Crest or other stuff like Isekai Smartphone. Everything this show does is to make the main character look cool. The smart people know how cool and smart Souma is so they want to ally with him. The dumb people like the prince are the ones that oppose our protag and refuse to see how cool he is. The entire setting itself seems to have elements made of stupid so that our protag can point it out and look smart for doing so.
However The Strongest Sage thingy and Isekai Smartphone seem to know how making a story purely about "look at how awesome our protag is" is kinda silly and not fit for a story to be taken seriously so they just take a lighthearted tone and don't try to overthink it. OP protag solving problems without effort makes for a bit lame entertainment but it is what it is, good for some brainless lighthearted fun. Realist Hero tries to be like a political thriller but just mixed with an Light Novel OP protagonist. You know, it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Without the thrill, all this political intrigue seems like a wasted effort. |
It seems to be a trend in Light Novels recently majority of Isekai seem to be centered on 3 categories.
First one, as described above overpowered hero who ends up with Harem, most of them are male dominated with a female one thrown in from time to time:
Arifuta, Realist Hero, Reincarnated as a Slime, Isekai smartphone, cheat magician, she called herself pupil of wise man, how not to summon demon lord, moon-led journey, shield hero, so I am a Spider. There is a new one coming up - life is hard for MOB in Otome world. (There is a sub-genre of it that uses reincarnation instead of isekai but everything else is the same: I wanted to be average in my next life, misfit in demon king academy, strongest sage with weakest seal).
Second one is overpowered hero isekai to fantasy world but wants to live in peace or pursue slow life. Majority of that is female dominated with couple of male ones thrown in.
Killing slimes for 300 years, Ascendance Of A Bookworm, Saint's power is omnipotent, drugstore in another world.
Third variation is average japanese girl/boy isekai into villain of the novel/game just read/played and need to get out of bad end. Korean web novels are consumed with this one and mostly dominated by females as MC. My next life as a villainess seem to be a starting point of it, Overlord is variation for male MC.
Tanya the Evil and So I am a Spider seems to be a different sub-genre as its written from point of view of a villain(ess) but who consideres himself (herself) a hero. Forget about redo of healer which is basically revenge porn.
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jr240483
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:03 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Souma's talk with Georg shows how far people will go for their ideas, and how much they're willing to sacrifice, although I can't help but think that Castor and Carla really did screw themselves over for nothing.
Liscia must be really internalizing how much Carmine's fate is eating away at her.
Jeanne and Hakuya seem pretty chummy.
I wasn't expecting a commendation ceremony to turn into Aisha's dad pimping his daughter out as Souma's next queen or Juna making her play, but Liscia is at least ready to approve sister wives that she knows as long as she is the undisputed first wife/queen. Too bad Juna has to wait until she's Nana Mizuki level to get married to Souma in public.
A secret cabal conspiring against Souma? I don't see that ending well. |
well thats an understatement. also they showed that scene with the prime minister in black and the empire's knight princess FOR A REASON!
For eventually in later light novel volumes according to certain people, both of them become a couple when the saint of the empire also become souma's 4th royal wife
though how did that end up occuring is anyone's guess!
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Picky33
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:51 pm
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Zefram wrote: |
It seems to be a trend in Light Novels recently majority of Isekai seem to be centered on 3 categories.
First one, as described above overpowered hero who ends up with Harem, most of them are male dominated with a female one thrown in from time to time:
Arifuta, Realist Hero, Reincarnated as a Slime, Isekai smartphone, cheat magician, she called herself pupil of wise man, how not to summon demon lord, moon-led journey, shield hero, so I am a Spider. There is a new one coming up - life is hard for MOB in Otome world. (There is a sub-genre of it that uses reincarnation instead of isekai but everything else is the same: I wanted to be average in my next life, misfit in demon king academy, strongest sage with weakest seal).
Second one is overpowered hero isekai to fantasy world but wants to live in peace or pursue slow life. Majority of that is female dominated with couple of male ones thrown in.
Killing slimes for 300 years, Ascendance Of A Bookworm, Saint's power is omnipotent, drugstore in another world.
Third variation is average japanese girl/boy isekai into villain of the novel/game just read/played and need to get out of bad end. Korean web novels are consumed with this one and mostly dominated by females as MC. My next life as a villainess seem to be a starting point of it, Overlord is variation for male MC.
Tanya the Evil and So I am a Spider seems to be a different sub-genre as its written from point of view of a villain(ess) but who consideres himself (herself) a hero. Forget about redo of healer which is basically revenge porn. |
I disagree with you breakdown. I would categorize Isekai on a sliding scale with the 2 ends and then everything in between could be sub categorized further. I would put isekal's into light and dark. "light isekai" on the far left of my scale would breakdown into "Overpowered and Everything is easy" (Smart Phone, Weakest Crest, Cheat Magician, etc). Then I would go with "Protag is powerful but struggles" (Arifuta, Slime), next to the right of center would be "My Attack didn't work I need to train more" and this would include "The struggle is real and adversity takes time to overcome", not the greatest title I know, but anime in this category would be Shield Hero, Re-Zero, Devil is a part timer. And finally on the far right of my scale is Dark Isekai, this would include massive struggle, major character deaths, etc. Anime I would place in this category are Grimgar Ash and Illusion, Now and Then, etc.
I can't help, but to believe the one "acting behind the scenes" to make everything smooth is the princess merchant of the land they just concurred.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:31 pm
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b-dragon wrote: | It seems less that the author studied PoliSci, and more like he had to do a book report on The Prince, but maybe that's just me. |
I tend to agree, especially after Ep18 where the book is heavily quoted as if it were the Bible for politics. There have been no shortage of treatises on government and politics in history but the author doesn't even mention one other....
Also about Ep18- It would be really interesting if Duke Carmine really were the head of the "black cat" corps in disguise and his execution just a cover. The way Duchess Excel reacted to Liscia's outburst was curious. But, I suppose not. Also, Harem Assemble! (in bed)
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jr240483
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:48 am
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Hiroki not Takuya wrote: |
b-dragon wrote: | It seems less that the author studied PoliSci, and more like he had to do a book report on The Prince, but maybe that's just me. |
I tend to agree, especially after Ep18 where the book is heavily quoted as if it were the Bible for politics. There have been no shortage of treatises on government and politics in history but the author doesn't even mention one other....
Also about Ep18- It would be really interesting if Duke Carmine really were the head of the "black cat" corps in disguise and his execution just a cover. The way Duchess Excel reacted to Liscia's outburst was curious. But, I suppose not. Also, Harem Assemble! (in bed) |
the author's addiction to macheveli's the prince seems pretty obvious from the way souma is basically using that book as a means to govern as king, but that may tend to backfire in the worst way in the future!
also i wouldnt be surprised if he did indeed fake the death of carmine and his officers that wanted to die by suicide and basically created his own secret police. though i fear this may not end up well if he uses them like stalin to purge his political enemies!
and speaking of which, at least the author didn't gave souma's secret unit the same name as stalin's infamous secret unit which is what prince zorzal from G.A.T.E named his secret police when he became king!
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MASSIVE DEATH FLAG if that was the case!
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:35 am
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jr240483 wrote: | ...the author's addiction to macheveli's the prince... using that book as a means to govern as king...may tend to backfire in the worst way in the future!... |
I was thinking the same, you don't just kill 10 (?) heads of powerful families ostensibly friendly and expect the repercussions won't be massive. Historical precedent for that sort of thing shows the bloodshed can go on for centuries! Not too smart a move..
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