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Gina Szanboti
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It's fascinating just how many cultures have stories of time-skipping like this, from Rip Van Winkle to the Greek Epimenides, and the Japanese Urashima Tarou. Likewise the Japanese creation lore regarding Izanagi and his wife Izanami, who ate the food of the underworld after her death and so could not return to the living world. |
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Yuvelir
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An intch remains unscratched. All the while through the segments about the cats living in Ulthar I was expecting a nod to The Cats of Ulthar.
Sure it isn't about magic or Gaelic myths but it's so easy to just mention and forget... |
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CrownKlown
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Id take it most anime/gaming fans probably first heard of Cait Sith when a little game called Final Fantasy VII came out back in the 90s. And the concept was used in anime many many times before SAO online, thats a shoddy example to use.
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trilaan
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There's a video game I recommend, Folklore(AKA FolksSoul, 2007). It was a PS3 exclusive game wherein you play Ellen, a young woman who must travel through several faery realms to discover the secrets of the little town of Doolin(particularly regarding her assumed dead mother) on the coast of Ireland and Keats, a reporter for an occult magazine. Faery creatures are everywhere in the game and you can capture and summon them.
I also particularly remember several episodes of Disney's amazing Gargoyles animated series from the mid-1990s which focused on subjects found in The Ancient Magus' Bride. |
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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I love the game "Folklore!" My sister and I weren't sure anyone besides us had played it.
 I've been playing a silly RPG called "Sproggiwood" that very loosely uses Northern European mythology, but it's nothing like "Folklore," unfortunately. Still fun, though.
@CrownKlown Fair point. My thought in using SAO wasn't so much to negate earlier examples but to not lose younger readers and readers who aren't gamers. But yes, there are worthier examples. @Yuvelir Somehow I missed reading that story. I'll rectify the error immediately - cats AND Lovecraft? How did I miss that?! |
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Alan45
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Cait Sith also makes multiple appearances in the Aria manga and anime.
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belvadeer
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Actually, Cait Sith appeared as early as FFIV, but the name was translated to Panther in the SNES release. It also appeared in V as an enemy again, and also in VI, as one of the four Espers you acquire in order to start learning magic. |
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Weazul-chan
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Ruth's more in line with English black dog myths than the cu sidhe or cwn annwn. Cu sidhe are usually said to be green or white and cwn annwn are often said to be white as well with red ears (always red ears). There may be a bit of overlap between those and black dog myths, but there's a distinction as well. Cu sidhe are almost always death omens and cwn annwn are associated with the wild hunt and death in general, but there's a subset of black dogs associated with being benevolent and protective, the church grim being one of the best known examples of that lot.
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EmperorBrandon
Encyclopedia Editor
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His name was originally different in the English language version of FFVI too, as "Stray". |
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Kadmos1
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I know that Ruth is based based off of the British Black Dog/variants. However, if he was a real dog, do you think he would be an Irish Wolfhound or Scottish Deer Hound? A comment was made about him being either (appearance wise) on his Ancient Magus Wiki page.
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belvadeer
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Correct. |
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trilaan
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I am happy to learn that I am not alone either. 
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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I'd got with Scottish Deer Hound, myself. The shape of his torso seems more in line with them. Both gorgeous dogs, though - I love hounds. (And big dogs.) |
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writerpatrick
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The King of the Cats is one of the best known Irish folk stories. It goes back hundreds of years.
There's also actual cases of dogs who sit by their master's grave. The most famous is Greyfriar's Bobby which is well known around England. |
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unready
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Cartaphilus, supposedly a servant of Pontius Pilate, abused Jesus on the way to the crucifixion. Jesus told Cartaphilus he had to wait for him to return. Since Jesus died at the crucifixion, his "return" would be the second coming. That's how Cartaphilus was cursed with immortality.
In some versions of the story, Cartaphilus was eventually baptized as Joseph and lived a pious life thereafter until a normal death. In other versions of the story, he was not baptized, but became the "wandering Jew" Ahasuerus, of whom there were supposed sightings as late as the 1600s in Europe, kind of like an early Renaissance Elvis. |
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